Ward Gun Auction

[-JR-]

Another ward gun auction coming up this weekend in Edmonton
For those biding , remember to add on 20% for Gst and buyers fees

[Ackleyman]

To each their own, an individuals choice to bid. I can see seller fee's they are not running an auction for their health. They can shove the buyers fee where the sun don't shine.

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by Ackleyman

To each their own, an individuals choice to bid. I can see seller fee's they are not running an auction for their health. They can shove the buyers fee where the sun don't shine.

Totally agree. I bid on a few things at Wards BUT most of my business goes to those who charge the least fees and some even include shipping. Buyers fee is just robbery.

[-JR-]

The sad part is the seller pays a sellers fee and the buyer pays a buyers fee !
So Ward makes around 35 % on what is sold .

[JD848]

Originally Posted by -JR-

The sad part is the seller pays a sellers fee and the buyer pays a buyers fee !
So Ward makes around 35 % on what is sold .

Plus you seemed concerned with the dollar roundup ,so this might just tilt you .

[-JR-]

Originally Posted by JD848

Plus you seemed concerned with the dollar roundup ,so this might just tilt you .

Not me ....just to many guys in the past have bid on a rifle and not knowing about the buyers fee ,until they pick it up . Then what happens is it does not get pay for ,then it goes for sale again at next auction .

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by -JR-

The sad part is the seller pays a sellers fee and the buyer pays a buyers fee !
So Ward makes around 35 % on what is sold .

Seems, when I have my eye on something at a gun auction, at the end of the day, it's often easier and cheaper to buy new (plus you get the box, warranty, etc.).

[Dewey Cox]

Buyer's fee is shady as hell.

[jungleboy]

I think this is common at most auction businesses. Slippery as a Liberal cabinet minister

[Pioneer2]

just another bottom feeder preying on widows and the uninformed.

[Dmay]

Originally Posted by Pioneer2

just another bottom feeder preying on widows and the uninformed.

What??

[bushnell]

There can be deals to be had. But too many people get it in their minds that they have to have something. Continue to over bid and wonder what happened

[CBintheNorth]

There's a few rifle scopes that are already bid higher than regular price at Cabela's.
Suckers.

There is a nice left handed Mark 5 in 270wby in there though. Still sitting at a very low price.

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by Pioneer2

just another bottom feeder preying on widows and the uninformed.

The widow may actually be doing okay, even with the sellers fee, if the items sell for close to or more than new. The uninformed, definitely, but I don't know if I have a problem with that. Lets me honest, it takes about 15 seconds to search how much an item costs new. If someone doesn't care enough to put in 15 seconds of effort, it shouldn't be surprising that the outcome may not be what they hoped for.

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by Trochu

The widow may actually be doing okay, even with the sellers fee, if the items sell for close to or more than new. The uninformed, definitely, but I don't know if I have a problem with that. Lets me honest, it takes about 15 seconds to search how much an item costs new. If someone doesn't care enough to put in 15 seconds of effort, it shouldn't be surprising that the outcome may not be what they hoped for.

My experience has been. Junk sells for top dollar, higher end stuff sells sometimes well below it's true market value. It all comes out in the wash but yes, one must know or research prices before they purchase. Buyer beware.

[M.C. Gusto]

Winchester Model 100 sold for 1800 plus fees! Are these guns now that collectible? I love mine, maybe i should have bought more?

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by M.C. Gusto

Winchester Model 100 sold for 1800 plus fees! Are these guns now that collectible? I love mine, maybe i should have bought more?

I was shocked to see a model 70 with a cheap scope go for $850++.

A 1980 Browning BBR went for the same $.
I paid $425 for my 1984 model (much nicer stock) in 1993.

Also saw a Sako 85 that went for $1,800++.

These are used rifles!

[DirtShooter]

My buddy had a junker w94 he bought for 400 from wards years ago and sent it to this auction and it sold for 800. Lol

[stob]

I was looking at the ss 275 rigby in ruger rsi...3 days b4 the auction it was at 1850, not sure the close on it, then add the auction fees...crazy, now that everything is online the prices are way higher...good place to get rid of junk

[Dewey Cox]

On the topic of auctions...

Did you know an online auction isn't governed by the same laws as a regular, in person auction?
In fact, there are no rules that govern online auctions.
For example, in a regular auction, it is against the law for the auction house to bid up the lots, it is against the law to bid up your own lot, and it is against the law to withdraw an item from sale once the auction has begun.

There are no laws preventing this in an online auction.
The government would have to make those laws, but online auctions are new enough that they haven't.
Online auctions are lawless.

[DirtShooter]

Originally Posted by Dewey Cox

On the topic of auctions...

Did you know an online auction isn't governed by the same laws as a regular, in person auction?
In fact, there are no rules that govern online auctions.
For example, in a regular auction, it is against the law for the auction house to bid up the lots, it is against the law to bid up your own lot, and it is against the law to withdraw an item from sale once the auction has begun.

There are no laws preventing this in an online auction.
The government would have to make those laws, but online auctions are new enough that they haven't.
Online auctions are lawless.

Well wards runs online and in person simultaneously

[bushnell]

With no disrespect to anyone. Wards run a business ,they're in it to make money. No one is forced to place a bid. I said earlier some people get the I want that bug and don't know when to stop bidding. Seen it too many times. It takes 2 bidders to run up an item. Do your homework before you start bidding

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by Dewey Cox

On the topic of auctions...

Did you know an online auction isn't governed by the same laws as a regular, in person auction?
In fact, there are no rules that govern online auctions.
For example, in a regular auction, it is against the law for the auction house to bid up the lots, it is against the law to bid up your own lot, and it is against the law to withdraw an item from sale once the auction has begun.

There are no laws preventing this in an online auction.
The government would have to make those laws, but online auctions are new enough that they haven't.
Online auctions are lawless.

I know a woman who works for a small auction in Edmonton. In a conversation about the online structure she said that herself, the manager, and the owner had access to view the 'Max Bid' of all bidders.
I asked what was stopping anyone of them from making a dummy account and bidding people right up to their max?
She said "Our conscience."
I trust her, but I'm guessing that not all auctioneers have her morals.

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by CBintheNorth

I know a woman who works for a small auction in Edmonton. In a conversation about the online structure she said that herself, the manager, and the owner had access to view the 'Max Bid' of all bidders.
I asked what was stopping anyone of them from making a dummy account and bidding people right up to their max?
She said "Our conscience."
I trust her, but I'm guessing that not all auctioneers have her morals.

I've won lots of items below my max proxy bid, from various auction houses, so must be more than one that operate in good faith.

[bat119]

I put some items in a auction two tins of musket caps sold for $320 still scratching my head on that one

[Dewey Cox]

Originally Posted by CBintheNorth

I know a woman who works for a small auction in Edmonton. In a conversation about the online structure she said that herself, the manager, and the owner had access to view the 'Max Bid' of all bidders.
I asked what was stopping anyone of them from making a dummy account and bidding people right up to their max?
She said "Our conscience."
I trust her, but I'm guessing that not all auctioneers have her morals.

If you put a few "max bids" in at the strathmore auction, one day they will all go up to the top of your max within 20 minutes of each other.
What a coincidence...

[Dewey Cox]

Originally Posted by DirtShooter

Well wards runs online and in person simultaneously

And it is my understanding that having that "in person" part makes them subject to the auction laws.
And I do feel like Ward's has a reputation for being above board (for the record)

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by Trochu

I've won lots of items below my max proxy bid, from various auction houses, so must be more than one that operate in good faith.

My experience as well. I bought a few things most I got for a good price one rifle not so much but I made the bids so I take the responsibility. But over all I got most of my items for 1/2 price.

[DirtShooter]

Originally Posted by Dewey Cox

And it is my understanding that having that "in person" part makes them subject to the auction laws.
And I do feel like Ward's has a reputation for being above board (for the record)

Agreed

I put some stink bids in for some 9.3x62 ammo thinking they would be topped and all of a sudden I owned $400 worth of ammo. Not one bid on my one and only bid lol