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07-31-2024, 06:37 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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Unsubscribed draws
Curious to know, if you apply for a unsubscribe draw, do you loose your status on your regular draws?
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08-01-2024, 09:47 AM
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"Draw priorities are not affected by the
acquisition of an undersubscribed licence."
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08-01-2024, 09:52 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2020
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And OP yes you can still buy a general elk tag after buying an undersub tag
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08-01-2024, 09:54 AM
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Confirmed you can still buy your general Elk tag after buying your unsubscribed tag.
Last edited by astepanuk; 08-01-2024 at 10:08 AM.
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08-01-2024, 10:20 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by astepanuk
Confirmed you can still buy your general Elk tag after buying your unsubscribed tag.
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Yup.
I grabbed an undersub in 357, I forgot tags at home so my wife had text me pictures. I did not know I would get 2 tags in 357 though so that's neat.
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08-01-2024, 10:51 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtShooter
Yup.
I grabbed an undersub in 357, I forgot tags at home so my wife had text me pictures. I did not know I would get 2 tags in 357 though so that's neat.
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Same here, had to check that the tagging requirements in the regs didn't change to needing 2 like sheep. lol
A special licence is issued with a tag(s) and is valid to hunt the specified type of animal at the specified time and location. A hunter must carry the licence and applicable tag(s) on his or her person while hunting. More than one tag may be issued in specific WMUs if there are too few applications to achieve the desired harvest.
From the regs, I guess we can shoot two?
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08-01-2024, 10:51 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: N Ab
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Now there's supplemental antlerless elk tags?
Not sure what's up but when buying an undersubscibed antlerless elk license AR asked for "2" tag #'s. I tried entering just 1 thinking this is odd" but no go. Wont add to cart.
Ok then...here's 2 tag #'s. Boom. Done deal and AR shows both tags as valid. I'm pretty sure I wasn't smoking the drapes while sleeping but I'm wondering if 1) this is a glitch and 2) why wouldn't they have said something about 2 for the price of 1 prior?
I've bought undersub tags in this wmu for 5 yrs and never had this happen before. Now I'm going back in to see if I can buy 2 more in the same wmu for the unsub season prior. Kidding.
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08-01-2024, 10:54 AM
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I had to enter 2 tag #s to get my son an undersubscribed cow licence, so would appear you get to shoot 2. I couldn’t find any info about there being a change though. Kids may have to buy another freezer
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08-01-2024, 10:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cody j
I had to enter 2 tag #s to get my son an undersubscribed cow licence, so would appear you get to shoot 2. I couldn’t find any info about there being a change though. Kids may have to buy another freezer
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It'd stink if a guy only had one tag on hand to apply. NO TAG FOR YOU.
Now buddy and I will have to buy a bigger truck but 16 legs sticking up from the box is really going to drive the anti's nuts when we drive down Whyte Ave. at noon hour.
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08-01-2024, 11:11 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2020
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Over 1500 undersub elk tags in 522 alone.... Seems nuts
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08-01-2024, 11:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtShooter
Over 1500 undersub elk tags in 522 alone.... Seems nuts
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Thats normal. Spread over 3 time periods
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08-01-2024, 11:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 270person
Thats normal. Spread over 3 time periods
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In years past I remember 522 only having the Dec 21-Jan21 season and selling out quickly. They must have added tags up there.
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08-01-2024, 11:20 AM
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Join Date: May 2017
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100% no
You can deff NOT buy a underscribed tag and purchase a general elk tag,one tag per species only,if you purchase a underscribed elk tag,your general tag is garbage
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08-01-2024, 11:24 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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I had a bull elk tag and a cow elk tag for the last 2 years
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08-01-2024, 11:27 AM
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Join Date: May 2017
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fnw
the lady im speaking to at fish & wildlife saying no wtf
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08-01-2024, 11:38 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by birdseye
the lady im speaking to at fish & wildlife saying no wtf
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She's wrong
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08-01-2024, 11:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by birdseye
the lady im speaking to at fish & wildlife saying no wtf
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Only if you DRAW an antlerless, can you NOT get a general bull. If you BUY an UNDERSUBSCRIBED, you can also buy a general.
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08-01-2024, 11:40 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by birdseye
the lady im speaking to at fish & wildlife saying no wtf
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Page 13 draw booklet
Holders of a resident elk (general) licence may now purchase an unsubscribed anterless elk special licence
2nd year it's been like that
other years it would not even give you the option
If you bought a general it wouldn't allow you to buy anterless
One year i bought unsubscribed anterless wouldn't allow me to buy general tag after that
PAGE 19 2024 HUNTING REGS. POSTED TWICE ON PAGE
k* 45.00 A Resident Adult may obtain only
one of the first five licences.
A Resident Youth/Senior may
obtain only one of these nine
licences.
* Holders of a Elk (General)
Licence may purchase a
undersubscribed Antlerless Elk
Licence
Either Sex Elk Special Licence 45.00
Antlerless Elk Special Licence 45.00
Antlered Elk Special Licence 60.00
WMU 300 Elk Special Licence 60.00
Special WMU 300 Elk Partner Licence (Youth/Senior) 12.00
Special Either Sex Elk Partner Licence (Youth/Senior) 12.00
Special Antlerless Elk Partner Licence (Youth/Senior) 12.00
Special Antlered Elk Partner Licence (Youth/Senior) 12.00
* Holders of a Resident
Elk (General) Licence
may purchase an
undersubscribed Antlerless
Elk Licence
FH
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08-01-2024, 11:47 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by birdseye
You can deff NOT buy a underscribed tag and purchase a general elk tag,one tag per species only,if you purchase a underscribed elk tag,your general tag is garbage
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This is incorrect. Thats how it used to be. Now you can purchase a general elk tag for your 3+ bull and where available an unsubbed antlerless elk tag in same year. Some unsubbed seasons run simultaneously with the general as well
. And unless there was a glitch on AR this morning you can now take 1 Bull + 2 cow in the same year.
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08-01-2024, 11:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtShooter
In years past I remember 522 only having the Dec 21-Jan21 season and selling out quickly. They must have added tags up there.
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Now theres Sept/Oct, Nov/Dec, and late Dec/Jan unsubbed seasons.
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08-01-2024, 12:26 PM
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corrected
I asked for a supervisor and he confirmed you are cerrect,a person can have a general bull elk tag and also have a underscribed cow elk tag.I purchsed both this morning and was given two cow elk tags along with my general Bull elk tag,Im happy she was wrong, I can see F&W changing this as why would anyone pull there draws and hunt a Bull or cow only when its legal to hunt both curently
Last edited by birdseye; 08-01-2024 at 12:28 PM.
Reason: spelling
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08-01-2024, 12:49 PM
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I’m happy you were wrong too Birdseye.
TBark
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08-01-2024, 12:49 PM
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Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 270person
Now buddy and I will have to buy a bigger truck but 16 legs sticking up from the box is really going to drive the anti's nuts when we drive down Whyte Ave. at noon hour.
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Only valid if you take pictures!
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08-01-2024, 12:57 PM
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9:01 AM on the toilet, one blank tag in hand, tablet and the realm webpage open.
Aprx 09:03 i’m logged in (pun not intended, ha) with my undersubscribed elk selected.
But what’s this, two tags required? But only one in hand.
The wife sees me doing the hallway shuffle scramble to get a second tag, ha.
Can’t wait til September,
Good luck all.
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08-01-2024, 01:21 PM
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Join Date: May 2017
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sure
Im happy i was given the wrong info too,not sure how wrong i was considering i was getting the info first hand from F&W T-Bark 🤷*♂️there is always one eh
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08-01-2024, 01:51 PM
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At a local licence issuer this morning, many in line were told if not purchasing the general elk tag before the undersubscribed tag, should the intent be to purchase both, the system would kick her out and not allow the purchase of the general post-purchase of the undersubscribed.
The line was long, with fellas and ladies looking for more tags due to the second tag requirement identified in certain WMU for undersubscribed purchases.
There was no issue when purchasing in general tag first then undersubscribed order.
Many couples leaving with 6 tags to possibly fill for elk this season.
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08-01-2024, 04:49 PM
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seems like double tags handed out all over the peace country. did not expect that.
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08-01-2024, 06:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wildalberta
seems like double tags handed out all over the peace country. did not expect that.
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Yeah I have 2 cow elk tags....different
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08-01-2024, 08:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by outofbounds
At a local licence issuer this morning, many in line were told if not purchasing the general elk tag before the undersubscribed tag, should the intent be to purchase both, the system would kick her out and not allow the purchase of the general post-purchase of the undersubscribed.
The line was long, with fellas and ladies looking for more tags due to the second tag requirement identified in certain WMU for undersubscribed purchases.
There was no issue when purchasing in general tag first then undersubscribed order.
Many couples leaving with 6 tags to possibly fill for elk this season.
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Either their system is snafu or a clueless employee. I had zero problems buying my undersubscribes and I still haven't bought a general.
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