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Old 12-15-2022, 11:28 PM
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Trudeau's head may explode, after he sees this.
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Trudeau's head may explode, after he sees this.
One can only hope.
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Trudeau's head may explode, after he sees this.
I hope so.

I really hope other provinces see this from Alberta and join in.

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Old 12-16-2022, 09:31 AM
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A step in the right direction. But they’re still going to be prohibited devices, aren’t they?
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Old 12-16-2022, 09:34 AM
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A step in the right direction. But they’re still going to be prohibited devices, aren’t they?
Federally yes, and if the ndp win provincially, Notley will likely abandon this position immediately, and go back to kissing Trudeau's rear, like she did when she was premier.
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Oh boy, shandro and some legalese. That’s definitely gonna help. In other words, “you’re maybe protected but only if it suits the UCP”

Absolute garbage.

Knew they wouldn’t have the balls to actually DO anything.




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Old 12-16-2022, 09:47 AM
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Oh boy, shandro and some legalese. That’s definitely gonna help. In other words, “you’re maybe protected but only if it suits the UCP”

Absolute garbage.

Knew they wouldn’t have the balls to actually DO anything.




Change the thread title so we don’t get 45 threads on the same subject.
And what were they supposed to do, about federal legislation? They did about all that they can.
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Old 12-16-2022, 09:48 AM
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And what were they supposed to do, about federal legislation? They did about all that they can.
Exactly
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Old 12-16-2022, 09:53 AM
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And what were they supposed to do, about federal legislation? They did about all that they can.
That attitude is what keeps them in the trough, and our property and freedoms getting taken away.

What should they do? Special sheriff's division. Round up EVERY federal lawyer, judge, and federal liberal member, load them on a train car headed to Ottawa.

Or simply institute a law that denies Ottawa, the federal constitution, and the Supreme Court ANY firearms jurisdiction in Alberta, permanently, with a punishment of hanging for anyone who attempts to undo the legislation.
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Old 12-16-2022, 10:15 AM
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That attitude is what keeps them in the trough, and our property and freedoms getting taken away.

What should they do? Special sheriff's division. Round up EVERY federal lawyer, judge, and federal liberal member, load them on a train car headed to Ottawa.

Or simply institute a law that denies Ottawa, the federal constitution, and the Supreme Court ANY firearms jurisdiction in Alberta, permanently, with a punishment of hanging for anyone who attempts to undo the legislation.
Easy on the sauce it’s 9 am
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Easy on the sauce it’s 9 am
Don’t need any for this one

Sick of pathetic little platitudes from “conservatives”. They are about as conservative as the NDP is democratic. Oink oink all around

Long overdue we put some consequences behind the will of the people.
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Old 12-16-2022, 10:21 AM
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That attitude is what keeps them in the trough, and our property and freedoms getting taken away.

What should they do? Special sheriff's division. Round up EVERY federal lawyer, judge, and federal liberal member, load them on a train car headed to Ottawa.

Or simply institute a law that denies Ottawa, the federal constitution, and the Supreme Court ANY firearms jurisdiction in Alberta, permanently, with a punishment of hanging for anyone who attempts to undo the legislation.
you are spouting nonsense ,
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Easy on the sauce it’s 9 am
No kidding.
Sometimes you gotta celebrate the little victories before continuing the climb.
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Old 12-16-2022, 10:24 AM
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Don’t need any for this one

Sick of pathetic little platitudes from “conservatives”. They are about as conservative as the NDP is democratic. Oink oink all around

Long overdue we put some consequences behind the will of the people.
Sure, but wasn't it you who was condemning the UCP while championing the NDP's socialist approach to healthcare?
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Old 12-16-2022, 10:34 AM
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Sure, but wasn't it you who was condemning the UCP while championing the NDP's socialist approach to healthcare?
No. I said nurses are not to blame for the state of things and should not be demonized. And let’s leave the whataboutism off a gun thread.

Registry - not destroyed, and a new one working
High river gestapo - still here
Property - not protected
Representation - not equal
Gun owners - still criminalized
Self defence - still criminalized

Where exactly do you see a “little victory” ? And what exactly do you think shandro will do if the feds press the issue?

Take the blinders off, or keep heading down chute with the rest of the herd. That works out well right
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you are spouting nonsense ,
That is an huge understatement .
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Don’t need any for this one

Sick of pathetic little platitudes from “conservatives”. They are about as conservative as the NDP is democratic. Oink oink all around

Long overdue we put some consequences behind the will of the people.
You obviously do not have the slightest idea how it works
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Old 12-16-2022, 11:17 AM
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Old 12-16-2022, 11:18 AM
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Any ideas where there is hanging and dragging and whatnot are involved shouldn’t be brought forth because… Well, why and what is the point?

As for the “victory”, I agree, you don’t win by simply declaring a victory. We will see what happens.
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Old 12-16-2022, 11:40 AM
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No. I said nurses are not to blame for the state of things and should not be demonized. And let’s leave the whataboutism off a gun thread.

Registry - not destroyed, and a new one working
High river gestapo - still here
Property - not protected
Representation - not equal
Gun owners - still criminalized
Self defence - still criminalized

Where exactly do you see a “little victory” ? And what exactly do you think shandro will do if the feds press the issue?

Take the blinders off, or keep heading down chute with the rest of the herd. That works out well right
No blinders here.
But I know the difference between what is easily doable, and what is next to impossible.
What you're proposing couldn't happen without total separation.
While there are times I wish it were possible, I also understand that it is next to impossible and might not be as great as we think it will be.
Not trying to kill your fire, as it's great to see people fired up with a "Pro Alberta" stance, but after having Notley willfully hand us over to Trudeau, and Kenney cower to the will of the Feds, having a political party stand up for Albertans against Trudeau in any way is a victory to me. However small.
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Old 12-16-2022, 11:59 AM
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This just means the Alberta Crown *may* not charge you, but they can't flat out tell the Crown what to do as that is interfering with the Judicial system. You know, that thing we have been so upset with Trudeau for doing (SNC scandal).

And it won't prevent your door from getting kicked in and your prohib and all your other firearms taken, as the RCMP are a Federal agency and get their marching orders from Ottawa.

So, you are still vulnerable to the confiscation of your property, and even if the Crown declines to charge you, what are your expectations of getting your property back. Because you won't be getting it back.

Yes, it's a very small bit of political posturing, it's good they did it, but it's not nearly as effective as what SK passed into law. That was serious obstructionism to the actual confiscation that has been proposed.

Hardly a victory.
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Old 12-16-2022, 12:12 PM
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No blinders here.
But I know the difference between what is easily doable, and what is next to impossible.
What you're proposing couldn't happen without total separation.
While there are times I wish it were possible, I also understand that it is next to impossible and might not be as great as we think it will be.
Not trying to kill your fire, as it's great to see people fired up with a "Pro Alberta" stance, but after having Notley willfully hand us over to Trudeau, and Kenney cower to the will of the Feds, having a political party stand up for Albertans against Trudeau in any way is a victory to me. However small.
I have been in favor of separation in one form or another for a long time.

This is nothing more than smoke and mirrors, and conservatives fall for it every time. That is extremely frustrating. I have nothing against anyone on here, just drives me nuts that people accept such garbage.

If anyone truly believes this is a victory, take a video of yourself shooting one of the banned firearms (responsibly), and post it to Trudeau/Singh/RCMP feeds. See how well Danielle and shandro stand up for you then.

Let’s see who actually believes “…may not be in the public interest”
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Old 12-16-2022, 12:16 PM
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This just means the Alberta Crown *may* not charge you, but they can't flat out tell the Crown what to do as that is interfering with the Judicial system. You know, that thing we have been so upset with Trudeau for doing (SNC scandal).

And it won't prevent your door from getting kicked in and your prohib and all your other firearms taken, as the RCMP are a Federal agency and get their marching orders from Ottawa.

So, you are still vulnerable to the confiscation of your property, and even if the Crown declines to charge you, what are your expectations of getting your property back. Because you won't be getting it back.

Yes, it's a very small bit of political posturing, it's good they did it, but it's not nearly as effective as what SK passed into law. That was serious obstructionism to the actual confiscation that has been proposed.

Hardly a victory.
While I do prefer the Saskatchewan approach, they still can't prevent the RCMP from kicking down your door and taking your firearms. And the reality is, if the RCMP did decide to take those firearms out of Saskatchewan without complying with the Saskatchewan regulations, how could you stop them? The RCMP were ordered by the federal government to destroy the long gun registration records, and they did not comply, so if they don't follow orders from the federal government, why would we think that they would be obligated to obey provincial legislation?
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While I do prefer the Saskatchewan approach, they still can't prevent the RCMP from kicking down your door and taking your firearms. And the reality is, if the RCMP did decide to take those firearms out of Saskatchewan without complying with the Saskatchewan regulations, how could you stop them? The RCMP were ordered by the federal government to destroy the long gun registration records, and they did not comply, so if they don't follow orders from the federal government, why would we think that they would be obligated to obey provincial legislation?
Not exactly

If the province has a law that they must be provincially licensed to participate in the gun grab, and their contract states they must follow provincial law, the province of Saskatchewan could simply and immediately end the contract with the RCMP. Then they no longer have jurisdiction and cannot operate. That opens a pretty big can of worms, but it’s a functional policy tool, much more so than “….may not…”
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Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that some provincial governments and AFN are publicly coming out against this idiotic gun bill. But I firmly believe that this time, either all firearms owners stand together, and do not comply, or we are basically finished.

I don't think JT and his cabal have the stones to criminalize 2.4 million (or however many) licensed gun owners. And I don't think the Supreme Court of Canada would uphold a law that criminalizes all those Canadians for legally purchasing their property.

Maybe I'm naive.
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Not exactly

If the province has a law that they must be provincially licensed to participate in the gun grab, and their contract states they must follow provincial law, the province of Saskatchewan could simply and immediately end the contract with the RCMP. Then they no longer have jurisdiction and cannot operate. That opens a pretty big can of worms, but it’s a functional policy tool, much more so than “….may not…”
While that is true, it would be extremely difficult to just drop the RCMP contract immediately, it's not like there is a plan in place, and resources standing by to immediately take over the RCMP role in Saskatchewan. And has been posted before, the RCMP officers don't swear allegiance to the province , and they take direction from the RCMP brass, not from the province. If they are brazen enough to defy direct orders from the federal government, which is bordering on treason, then why should they feel bound by provincial legislation?
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Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that some provincial governments and AFN are publicly coming out against this idiotic gun bill. But I firmly believe that this time, either all firearms owners stand together, and do not comply, or we are basically finished.

I don't think JT and his cabal have the stones to criminalize 2.4 million (or however many) licensed gun owners. And I don't think the Supreme Court of Canada would uphold a law that criminalizes all those Canadians for legally purchasing their property.

Maybe I'm naive.
Just like with the Registry, non-compliance is THE ONLY way this will go away.
Let's hope our community stands together again.
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Pretty little soundbyte, somewhere between useless as a boar's tit and a rock, but, it sounds good, for about 3 seconds or less.
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None of the provincial reactions to the gun bans actually protect firearms owners or stop the federal ban. Sure it makes it a little more difficult for things to be enforced but it doesn’t do much else

Basically Alberta and Saskatchewan are giving Ottawa the finger saying they don’t agree and won’t help enforce the bans. It’s really just politicians grand standing trying to make it look like they are doing something.

Sounds great but all bark no bite in the end
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