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Canada's Fighter Jet Procurement Process ... Delayed Yet AGAIN ❗
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CF-18 Hornet ... 40 Years Old 
Yet another delay in buying a replacement. Reuters News article link 👉 https://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAKBN20J23V
There appears to be no end to this process ... it's been going on for well over a decade now ❗
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Looking for a fuel efficient model. To satisfy the carbon crowd.
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02-25-2020, 12:16 PM
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The Liberals will want solar-electric aircraft that can accurately ‘bomb’ flowers into the enemies gun barrels. Bonus points if they’re assembled out of hemp fiber components.
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02-25-2020, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CaberTosser
The Liberals will want solar-electric aircraft that can accurately ‘bomb’ flowers into the enemies gun barrels. Bonus points if they’re assembled out of hemp fiber components.
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You forgot the "Made in the Culturally-Distinct, Vitally-important, Never-defeated Province Du Quebec" manufacturing stipulation.
Quebec jobs matter!
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02-25-2020, 12:25 PM
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Nothing to see here folks. Move along. 
Surely you didn't expect anything else?
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02-25-2020, 02:34 PM
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I was surprised to read that the 'Saab Gripen E' is still in the running . . .
The new 'Gripen E' 👉 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjOZIm8tlDg
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I don't know why we don't just build a new fleet of environmentally friendly Sopwith Camels, with carbon neutral rubber bands to power them, that can shoot rubber bullets and drop rubber bombs. Not sure where you get environmentally friendly rubber, but just skip over that bit..... We could create jobs in QC by getting them to wind them up.
Jesus wept, but that anyone would even want to join the Canadian Unarmed Forces at this point. Show of hands, who wants to fly a 40 year old platform full of salvaged parts from Australia, against Gen 4 and 5 aircraft from China and Russia? Show of hands?
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02-25-2020, 02:49 PM
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Who needs jets when clouds are capable of spreading more snowflakes???
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02-25-2020, 09:23 PM
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Just think where Canada would be had the Arrow been able to fly...
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02-25-2020, 09:41 PM
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Gliders.
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02-25-2020, 11:52 PM
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Gliders.
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Or Death Star.
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02-26-2020, 12:18 AM
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Just think where Canada would be had the Arrow been able to fly...
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With a fast, high altitude interceptor that can be out-turned by a Bear bomber, with a non-functional fire control system and the inability to launch a missile without slowing to to the point where it's a sitting duck.
On the other hand, Federal subsidies would have made AVRO executives extremely wealthy, and apparently to Liberals that's a good thing for Canada.
I flew 917...
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02-26-2020, 01:32 AM
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Just buy the F18 Super Hornets already and get it over with.
It seems like a no brainer.
But around and round they go..........
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02-26-2020, 07:49 AM
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It's all million/billion dollar toys used primary to bomb 3rd world countries further into the stone age. When Russia/China/US eventually wants our water, land and resources we are toast, a few fancy fighter jets or not.
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02-26-2020, 08:04 AM
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A new pair of knee pads for defense negotiations with the US was deemed more cost effective and frankly more exciting for Trudeau
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02-26-2020, 11:23 AM
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We need the FA-37 Talon!
And a few dozen Extreme Deep Invader aircraft for support!
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02-26-2020, 12:05 PM
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We need the FA-37 Talon!
And a few dozen Extreme Deep Invader aircraft for support!
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Those are pretty cool but the present budget we will have to settle for a retired crop duster, an old 870, and half a box of steel shot to keep it environmentally friendly 
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02-26-2020, 12:56 PM
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Our current regime can't even keep trains rolling across this country, what the hell are they going to do with a fighter jet?
SS would rather roll a fatty and discuss the situation then take any sort of formal action.
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02-26-2020, 03:58 PM
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Or ... Bring Back The Arrow ❗
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Just buy the F18 Super Hornets already and get it over with.
It seems like a no brainer.
But around and round they go..........
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We could probably get a good deal on Migs, from Putin .  These things are getting to be prohibitively expensive, so procurement numbers are less and less, not a good thing if things go south in a major way. 
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02-26-2020, 04:30 PM
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Those are pretty cool but the present budget we will have to settle for a retired crop duster, an old 870, and half a box of steel shot to keep it environmentally friendly |
If you want to see the capabilities check out the movie Stealth
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Only dead fish go with the flow. The rest use their brains in life.
Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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02-26-2020, 04:50 PM
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Quote:
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The Liberals will want solar-electric aircraft that can accurately ‘bomb’ flowers into the enemies gun barrels. Bonus points if they’re assembled out of hemp fiber components.
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And built in Quebec.
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Solar power and only fly when its sunny
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get Tesla to build a battery powered one
problem solved
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Do they even make solar panels that are compatable with stealth technology?
By the time the government makes up its mind what ever technology they choose will be out off date. At this rate Canada will be no more before those fighters could ever be used anyways.
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02-26-2020, 05:38 PM
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Just buy the F18 Super Hornets already and get it over with.
It seems like a no brainer.
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Those ^ Super Hornets are already 'long-in-the-tooth'. They're fighter technology from the early 1990's (i.e. almost 30 years ago).
Unless they want to go old-school (F-18 SH), Canada only has two choices left now ... the Lockheed Martin F-35, or the Saab Gripen E.
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Which one is the best at braking up a rail blockade.
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02-27-2020, 04:41 AM
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Those ^ Super Hornets are already 'long-in-the-tooth'. They're fighter technology from the early 1990's (i.e. almost 30 years ago).
Unless they want to go old-school (F-18 SH), Canada only has two choices left now ... the Lockheed Martin F-35, or the Saab Gripen E.
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And the F35 is already 15 years old.
By the time any of our governments make up their minds the f35 will probably be a museum piece.
Much like the planes our pilots are flying now.
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3500 KPH and built with 60s technology. 
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Next Generation 'Saab Gripen E'
A good writeup on the new Gripen E, and it's benefits for Canada 👉 https://www.skiesmag.com/features/sa...-e-dark-horse/
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