well gull lake i was using jig head with an anchovie, kept about 2 feet off bottom, pike and burbs hitting that, wire worm tip with maggot for whitefish and perch, same for sylvan, chain lakes is a sz 12 hook with a ball of veleta cheese loaf and a tiny littlw weight, also i find orange and rainbow powerbait also works, fish off the bottom a foot or two
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