Misfiring savage 93 .17hmr

The cooter · #1 05-08-2010, 03:54 AM

In the last little while I have had alot of misfires.Anyone have the same problems? I took the bolt apart cleaned and relubed it.I have heard of guys boiling the bolt any truth to this fixing the problem?

leo · #2 05-08-2010, 07:12 AM

Did you change brand of ammo ? The rim could be slightly thinner than another brand, in essence causing a head space issue. If you want to try degreasing the bolt , maybe varsol and a tooth brush scrub . Then lube it with graphite or silicone

Dean2 · #3 05-08-2010, 08:17 AM

Once you get a lot of rounds through the Savage the spring can get weak. I replaced the spring and pin on one of mine at about 20,000 rounds. If you phone Savage they will mail you a new spring and I would get a firing pin at the same time.

The cooter · #4 05-08-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by leo

Did you change brand of ammo ? The rim could be slightly thinner than another brand, in essence causing a head space issue. If you want to try degreasing the bolt , maybe varsol and a tooth brush scrub . Then lube it with graphite or silicone

Yes, I changed ammo brands. No fix. So last night I pulled the bolt apart cleaned it right down and reoiled. Next step boiling the bolt.Was thinking about polishing the bolt to maker a little smoother. Don't really want to send it back and loose it for 6 months.Cheers.

The cooter · #5 05-08-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean2

Once you get a lot of rounds through the Savage the spring can get weak. I replaced the spring and pin on one of mine at about 20,000 rounds. If you phone Savage they will mail you a new spring and I would get a firing pin at the same time.

I might have 700 rounds at best through this thing.Shoots very accurate just really startin to get under my goat only every second round fires. Hammer is scoring the primer very clearly.Maybe time for a phone call. Thanks.

crawfy · #6 05-08-2010, 01:39 PM

Best thing you could try and do would be to sell it and buy a Weatherby. LOL. Sounds as if the firing pin is malfunctioning. How many gophers did you say you shot so far? Good luck hopefully you can get that problem fixed as round two of the gopher season is about to begin.

IR_mike · #7 05-08-2010, 01:45 PM

Is it a accutrigger model?
Mine misfired from new as the trigger was set below the minimum resulting in a misfire every second round as well.

Git r Done · #8 05-08-2010, 04:41 PM

I have had the same problem happen to my 22 lr savage with accutrigger but it isn't as often as every second round. Don't know if this has happened to you guys but quite often after I fire a round and go to load another one the bolt doesn't eject the spent round. Not sure if cooter has had this problem or not.

Dean2 · #9 05-08-2010, 06:23 PM

Not ejecting is a different problem. If you look where the bolt slides back, just behing the rear of the magazine well, there is a small tab that extends upwards into a slot on the bolt. This tab hits the back of the empty case and is what causes the empty to eject. Use a flat end screw drivier and pry that up a little at a time till you get reliable ejection.

As to mis-fires - If the firing pin is making a noticable and defined dent on the rim, that looks the same as the ones that go off, (look with a ten power jewellers loop and inspect carefully) then only two things can cause misfires. The firing pin is hitting too slow, weak spring or catching and hanging when trigger dropped, or you have a defective batch of shells.

whitetail Junkie · #10 05-08-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The cooter

In the last little while I have had alot of misfires.Anyone have the same problems? I took the bolt apart cleaned and relubed it.I have heard of guys boiling the bolt any truth to this fixing the problem?

I've had a Mark XXII 17HMR weatherby for Ten years and never had a problem with her yet

slingshot · #11 05-09-2010, 08:50 AM

Had the same problem used break clean problem solved

The cooter · #12 05-10-2010, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

I've had a Mark XXII 17HMR weatherby for Ten years and never had a problem with her yet

Haha whitetail junkie 1 cooter 0 I deserved that one to funny thanks

The cooter · #13 05-10-2010, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by crawfy

Best thing you could try and do would be to sell it and buy a Weatherby. LOL. Sounds as if the firing pin is malfunctioning. How many gophers did you say you shot so far? Good luck hopefully you can get that problem fixed as round two of the gopher season is about to begin.

Crawfy are you trying to brain wash me into a weatherby

The cooter · #14 05-10-2010, 01:24 AM

So anyways if broke down the bolt cleaned it and polished the fireing pin and all components including the bolt to make it a little smoother hears hopein.

crawfy · #15 05-10-2010, 02:11 AM

Coooooooooter looooook into my eyes and on the count of three say weatherby.

The cooter · #16 05-10-2010, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by crawfy

Coooooooooter looooook into my eyes and on the count of three say weatherby.

It's working!

flint · #17 05-10-2010, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by The cooter

In the last little while I have had alot of misfires.Anyone have the same problems? I took the bolt apart cleaned and relubed it.I have heard of guys boiling the bolt any truth to this fixing the problem?

Maybe a bad patch of ammo. Try different ammo-it may solve the problem.

catnthehat · #18 05-10-2010, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by IR_mike

Is it a accutrigger model?
Mine misfired from new as the trigger was set below the minimum resulting in a misfire every second round as well.

I set up two that were misfiring due to being set below the minimum.
Also check and see if you have a screw protruding up too far into the action, and causing the bolt to drag...
Cat

Dettah Wolf · #19 05-10-2010, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by flint

Maybe a bad patch of ammo. Try different ammo-it may solve the problem.

My nephew just had this misfire with his 17HMR Savage. He changed brands of ammo and it misfired alot. Went back to Hornady and everything was fine again. Not sure if the other manufacturer just produced a bad run of ammo or what????

The cooter · #20 05-12-2010, 12:06 AM

Well took out the .17 today same problem + the caseing would not eject. Now i'm really getting heated with this thing time to pack it up and send it away! Not sure yet if I will venture another savage .17 hmr model 93. As I am in the market for another .17 hmr. But hey I guess I deserve it for cheaping out.

IR_mike · #21 05-12-2010, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The cooter

Well took out the .17 today same problem + the caseing would not eject. Now i'm really getting heated with this thing time to pack it up and send it away! Not sure yet if I will venture another savage .17 hmr model 93. As I am in the market for another .17 hmr. But hey I guess I deserve it for cheaping out.

See if any of the smiths out west here are doing warranty work for savage now.
It was a 4 month wait for mine from savage down east.

HunterDave · #22 05-12-2010, 12:19 AM

I've done allot of gopher shooting this Spring with my 93R17 BTVS with CCI and a bit of Winchester ammo. I had a few, out of 2 or 3 hundred, Winchester rounds that did not fire. Out of 4 or 5 hundred CCI rounds I didn't have any problems. This is my first year with the rifle so I hope that I don't run into the problems that you're having.

The cooter · #23 05-13-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterDave

I've done allot of gopher shooting this Spring with my 93R17 BTVS with CCI and a bit of Winchester ammo. I had a few, out of 2 or 3 hundred, Winchester rounds that did not fire. Out of 4 or 5 hundred CCI rounds I didn't have any problems. This is my first year with the rifle so I hope that I don't run into the problems that you're having.

I hope you don't either. Trust me there's nothing like your buddy's (Gatorr,Dogfish,Duramax01) calling you up to see if I can slide out for the afternoon and saying Quote: Hey and bring your P>E>T>A friendly gun with you!

I have one more chance at it and I can't say I'm to pumped about boiling the bolt for 10 min drying it out and using it. This is gonna fix it so i'm told.Find out on Saturday I guess

The cooter · #24 05-13-2010, 09:45 PM

All I got to say about this is it's a good thing I can grab my ankles

Thanks Savage

crawfy · #25 05-13-2010, 10:05 PM

Cooter go to the buy and sell I think there are about a few 17hmr' s for sale there and lots of variety tikkas,ruger,savage,marlin,cz but there aint no Weatherbys

leo · #26 05-13-2010, 10:17 PM

Cooter, I've got a CZ 451 American sittin in the cabinet doing %#$& all. Come get it and try it out, see if you like CZ. Hell ,I may even sell it to you if you like it. I haven't fired it since I moved to "mini mac", bought it for a beaver gun when I still had the farm and there she sits.

Ken07AOVette · #27 05-13-2010, 11:05 PM

I had a savage heavy barrel 22 mag that did the exact same thing. There was no amount of brake cleaner that would make that pos shoot more than about 50 rounds reliably.

I am so glad to be rid of it.

gatorr · #28 05-14-2010, 09:11 AM

No its not the ammo cooter is using as the stuff that wont fire in his peta gun it fires just fine in my Ruger 77/17. Love shooting gophers with cooter as after waiting for 5-6 misfires he gets ****ed and tells me to go ahead and shoot. Lots of gophers get to live with the cooter shooting.

AthaB282 · #29 05-14-2010, 08:35 PM

i bought a savage93 .17 mach2 ,retired the old cooey madel 75 22 cal. Gophers absolutly hate the little 17 bullet (really rips em up) ive had some misfires, same problem, what id done was cleaned it and didnt turn the head far enough, got maybe one shot of 10, thought it was too cold... took the bolt out turned the head one more time and have not had one misfirs since, not sure if you have the same bolt assembaly as mine, i take it you have a .17 hmr not the mach 2.

Dean2 · #30 05-15-2010, 01:37 PM

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...ad.php?t=78552

This may help. Works better than boiling them if the issue is inside.