Go Back   Alberta Outdoors Forum > Main Category > Hunting Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-08-2024, 12:58 AM
Serengeti Charters Serengeti Charters is offline
AO Sponsor
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Port Hardy, BC
Posts: 1,400
Default Elk Bugles

Addicted to elk hunting now. Curious as to what bugle tubes (not mouth reeds) guys use for elk. Is there a consensus go to one or ? Goal is to get half decent at it by next September and wanna start soon

Thanks guys.
__________________
All Inclusive Salmon and Halibut Fishing Lodge
Full Family Operation
Port Hardy, BC
www.serengetifishingcharters.com

The BEST Chinook Salmon and Halibut Fishing On the Coast
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-08-2024, 07:10 AM
bezzola's Avatar
bezzola bezzola is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: edmonton
Posts: 1,923
Default

I use the phelpes ez bugal cause i can’t ise mouth reeds🤮
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-08-2024, 11:20 AM
Brodhead's Avatar
Brodhead Brodhead is online now
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Mountain View County
Posts: 259
Default

Are you willing to try open reed calls? They are easier to use than mouth reeds but give you more control and variability than closed reed bugle tubes. I use an old bugle tube from berry game calls. Not sure if they still make them but replacement reeds are still available

Sent from my SM-G981W using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-08-2024, 12:54 PM
obsessed1 obsessed1 is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,995
Default

I use the black and gold rocky mountain diaphragm mostly but there are lots others that I like/ use too. A phelps bugle tube or a Gatorade bottle with a hole cut in the bottom. Lol
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-08-2024, 02:41 PM
Stinky Buffalo's Avatar
Stinky Buffalo Stinky Buffalo is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: A bit North o' Center...
Posts: 11,816
Default

Proficiency with mouth reeds can vary, depending on how much you practice, but also what your teeth/palate are like.

I have a bunch of different ones, mainly because I like to try them out, but when I'm feeling rusty and just want to make a decent bugle, I grab one of the Carlton Herd Bull reeds and my old corrugated bugle tube (I find that a bit of backpressure helps with pitch control) and it is reasonably forgiving. Once I'm back in the swing of it I'll use the others.

Now, just to be completely above board, there's no grip 'n grin pictures of me with a giant bull elk here on AO, so... Take whatever I saw with a grain of salt.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-08-2024, 03:40 PM
HELL HELL is offline
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 109
Default

Slayer enchantress is great call
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-08-2024, 03:51 PM
Fwee6 Fwee6 is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Rocky View County
Posts: 642
Default

Practice, practice, practice.

Buy a handful of different mouth reeds, put them in your truck, and when alone work on getting better. I made a point a few years ago to get a lot better at elk calling and it has had a significant impact on my hunting experiences, and that of my hunting partner.

I learned that I have a small, high pallet. So smaller mouth reeds are what I use -- Rocky Mountain Hunting Calls I've found the best for me, with their bugle tube.
- I've probably thrown out 6-8 reeds that just didn't suit me right.

Off season Youtube reviews of guys like Corey Jacobsen, Steve Chappell, Beau Brooks.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-08-2024, 04:17 PM
wallz wallz is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 438
Default

I had the same scenario a few years back, wanting to finally learn to hunt elk.

I gagged on the first few mouth reeds I bought, and then thought I would try a smaller one meant for "youth". That one fit nice, and the sound was good.

I ended up cutting all the other reeds I had, down little by little with a nice sharp pair of scissors, until I was not gagging on them anymore. They ended up slightly larger than the youth one.

This is easy enough to do, as its just a fiber around the main reed, and is all for sealing in your mouth.

I then purchased a $3 plastic baseball bat/ball combo from the dollar store. Cut out the two ends, and glued some scrap cammo fabric I had from an old shirt.

1st year out, I had numerous elk in the area, and managed to call a 5x5 out to 25 yrds. I'm in a 6x6 zone, so some great video of this.

This year I finally shot my first elk, and he came into 30 ft before we locked eyes. 1st shot at him he was at 35 yrds. Once he saw me he turned and ran, and then stopped to my bark. Both hands free, and mouth reed at the ready saved my bacon, and let me get my shot into him. No way I could have done that with any other type call. As he was walking in, I had a few seconds to free my hands, and ready my rifle, and even then he turned quickly and ran.

I also had a chance to hear a $400 ish dollar buggle tube, one of the wooden ones from another hunter in his camp. Did it sound better than mine, heck ye, but in the end did it really matter? I got my elk this year, and he unfortunately did not. He did have a nice 6x7 last year though.

Moral of the story, its not the $$ amount of your gear, but the sound you make with it in the end that matters.

Get out there and learn to call, and more importantly why they make the calls they do, and when to use what call. This I did not know on my first year, and was able to practice up for the second, and it paid off.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-08-2024, 04:20 PM
Stinky Buffalo's Avatar
Stinky Buffalo Stinky Buffalo is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: A bit North o' Center...
Posts: 11,816
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fwee6 View Post
Practice, practice, practice.

Buy a handful of different mouth reeds, put them in your truck, and when alone work on getting better. I made a point a few years ago to get a lot better at elk calling and it has had a significant impact on my hunting experiences, and that of my hunting partner.

I learned that I have a small, high pallet. So smaller mouth reeds are what I use -- Rocky Mountain Hunting Calls I've found the best for me, with their bugle tube.
- I've probably thrown out 6-8 reeds that just didn't suit me right.

Off season Youtube reviews of guys like Corey Jacobsen, Steve Chappell, Beau Brooks.
100%

Just one thing about bugling while driving - just don't do so much practicing behind the wheel that you get light-headed from taking those deep breaths over and over. It can happen. And that can be dangerous.

Not to mention if you are prone to gagging... Just be careful.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-08-2024, 05:03 PM
X-Treme's Avatar
X-Treme X-Treme is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 199
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fwee6 View Post
Buy a handful of different mouth reeds, put them in your truck.
I actually LOVE this idea!!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-08-2024, 05:21 PM
starvin starvin is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 96
Default

Berry thunder bugle. You’ll have it down in a few days, good enough in a few hours.
Most that use diaphragms don’t spend enough time to get good at it.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-08-2024, 10:26 PM
TBark's Avatar
TBark TBark is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Fort Sask, AB
Posts: 4,989
Default

If you don’t, or can’t use reeds, then Slayer for sure.
Disconnect from the tube and it is a great cow call as well.

See them at the sportsman show every year.

TBark
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-13-2024, 03:22 AM
Serengeti Charters Serengeti Charters is offline
AO Sponsor
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Port Hardy, BC
Posts: 1,400
Default

Anyone used the power bugle? Heard good things but hoping for more first hand experience. Thanks boys
__________________
All Inclusive Salmon and Halibut Fishing Lodge
Full Family Operation
Port Hardy, BC
www.serengetifishingcharters.com

The BEST Chinook Salmon and Halibut Fishing On the Coast
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-13-2024, 08:45 AM
Greatwest's Avatar
Greatwest Greatwest is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 990
Default

I use the power bugle. Called in 3 different bills with it this fall when we were hunting. It does take a fair bit of wind out of a guy for this bugle. I was actually think of buying something different for that reason. I also changed from the black rubber bands to the grey ones this year. Seems to have changed the pitch to a deeper one. I’ve used the power bugle for years but time to step out of the box and try something new.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-21-2024, 03:34 PM
Mike_W's Avatar
Mike_W Mike_W is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Stony Plain
Posts: 6,434
Default

To be honest most sound like crap I know there is always a lot of success stories with these fluty sounding calls. Mouth reeds are my go to and what I have called in several with but if that isn't an option the best sounding bugle is a Carlton calls mac daddy.

Whatever you choose I feel these calls are limited and you should stick to mainly location bugles don't even try and chuckle.

Ill be up this summer send me a message and remind me to bring my calls and ill give you a tutorial.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 10-21-2024, 06:32 PM
CanuckShooter's Avatar
CanuckShooter CanuckShooter is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Quesnel BC Canada
Posts: 5,631
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Serengeti Charters View Post
Anyone used the power bugle? Heard good things but hoping for more first hand experience. Thanks boys
We use the power bugle, works for us.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10-23-2024, 11:01 PM
Serengeti Charters Serengeti Charters is offline
AO Sponsor
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Port Hardy, BC
Posts: 1,400
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_W View Post
To be honest most sound like crap I know there is always a lot of success stories with these fluty sounding calls. Mouth reeds are my go to and what I have called in several with but if that isn't an option the best sounding bugle is a Carlton calls mac daddy.

Whatever you choose I feel these calls are limited and you should stick to mainly location bugles don't even try and chuckle.

Ill be up this summer send me a message and remind me to bring my calls and ill give you a tutorial.
Roger that bud. Sounds good I'll be around!!!

Ordered the power bugle, not expensive either so seemed like a low risk order.
__________________
All Inclusive Salmon and Halibut Fishing Lodge
Full Family Operation
Port Hardy, BC
www.serengetifishingcharters.com

The BEST Chinook Salmon and Halibut Fishing On the Coast
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10-24-2024, 08:24 AM
jcrayford jcrayford is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Usually the office, but the bush when I can
Posts: 1,317
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Serengeti Charters View Post
Addicted to elk hunting now. Curious as to what bugle tubes (not mouth reeds) guys use for elk. Is there a consensus go to one or ? Goal is to get half decent at it by next September and wanna start soon

Thanks guys.
Primos mouth reed. Dual diaphragm, Cow sounds and bugle all with the same reed. I find their design with the hood over the diaphragm fits my mouth better than a reed without a hood. Add a tube for a deeper bugle, but really it's personal preference. I sometimes take a tube, but the bugles I make (and practice with in the vehicle while driving downtown - you can always tell the hunters as they spin their heads looking) are good enough in a pinch. I have the accompanying Primos CD loaded in the vehicle to practice to. Listen to their calls then attempt to mimic my own calls to that.

Plus, hands are free to handle bow / rifle if needed.

However, like Stinky stated there's no grip 'n grin pictures of me holding a bull by its horns either - but it does make me grin to call during a red light in downtown with the windows open

J.
__________________
My $0.02.... Please feel free to take my comments with a grain of salt
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.