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12-17-2022, 12:13 AM
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She lost any and all respect, when she stood up in the house and said, and I quote "I speak for all hunters" RIGHT you don't speak for myself and I am sure millions of other hunters.
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12-17-2022, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter
She lost any and all respect, when she stood up in the house and said, and I quote "I speak for all hunters" RIGHT you don't speak for myself and I am sure millions of other hunters.
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Exactly.
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12-17-2022, 09:45 AM
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WOW! This a member of our current government?? Given credit, where due, she did know, break action, lever, pump and bolt. From there, major face plant! FAC?? Obviously, hasn't a clue about current laws!
We are DOOMED!
Had a beer with a friend the other day. We have been grouse hunting a few times. He has a 10/22. He was positive there was no issue, because 22's weren't on the list. I had to inform him about the semi auto, magazine fed, capable of holding more than 5 rounds. He was pretty much speechless! Still not sure he believed me!?
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12-17-2022, 09:54 AM
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WOW! This a member of our current government?? Given credit, where due, she did know, break action, lever, pump and bolt. From there, major face plant! FAC?? Obviously, hasn't a clue about current laws!
We are DOOMED!
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look up Liberal and you can't help but agree.
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12-17-2022, 10:39 AM
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She has become a laughing stock, and I believe that her stupidity, may have actually helped to increase opposition to the firearms bans.
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12-17-2022, 04:10 PM
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She has become a laughing stock, and I believe that her stupidity, may have actually helped to increase opposition to the firearms bans.
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Clearly Marco and Sparkly Sox wanted to trot out a “knowledgeable” liberal that supports their proposed firearms bill and pulled the gender card as well. Sadly her notions about “22 gauge” and references to levers, bolt and break actions are indeed included in the prohibited list of firearms, Ruger #1 is a lever gun, Mark 5s and variants are bolts and with break actions above 10,000 jewels…. Liberals continue to shoot themselves in the foot over this gun confiscation.
What is clearly apparent is woke, virtue signalling, urban political vote chasing, pathetic…
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12-17-2022, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JCart
Clearly Marco and Sparkly Sox wanted to trot out a “knowledgeable” liberal that supports their proposed firearms bill and pulled the gender card as well. Sadly her notions about “22 gauge” and references to levers, bolt and break actions are indeed included in the prohibited list of firearms, Ruger #1 is a lever gun, Mark 5s and variants are bolts and with break actions above 10,000 jewels…. Liberals continue to shoot themselves in the foot over this gun confiscation.
What is clearly apparent is woke, virtue signalling, urban political vote chasing, pathetic…
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600 Nitro is often a break open double or single too. Choice of criminals everywhere.
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12-17-2022, 06:02 PM
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There is stupider
I had Homeland Security red flag a .54 caliber Green mt muzzle loader ball barrel even though the local importer had all the correct permits. Perfect for taking down commercial aircraft. Not qualified to collect $ from a parking meter.
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12-18-2022, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
She has become a laughing stock, and I believe that her stupidity, may have actually helped to increase opposition to the firearms bans.
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I have been saying for years that the Turd has surrounded himself with people just as stupid as he is so this should be no surprise. Not only is she a Liberal MP but also a federal cabinet minister believe it or not. Minister of Rural Economic Development apparently. Never actually heard of her before but now she is famous.
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12-18-2022, 10:54 AM
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I have been saying for years that the Turd has surrounded himself with people just as stupid as he is so this should be no surprise. Not only is she a Liberal MP but also a federal cabinet minister believe it or not. Minister of Rural Economic Development apparently. Never actually heard of her before but now she is famous.
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Yup! For all the wrong, er, right reasons!!!
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12-18-2022, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 270WIN
I have been saying for years that the Turd has surrounded himself with people just as stupid as he is so this should be no surprise. Not only is she a Liberal MP but also a federal cabinet minister believe it or not. Minister of Rural Economic Development apparently. Never actually heard of her before but now she is famous.
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I think the people surrounding the turd is `more stupider`( had to put it in their language), you have to be to follow him around and agreeing with him. All this crap is going to be the end of their careers. The Turd is trying to make himself look `more smart`( lieberal language) by using these MP`s.
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12-18-2022, 04:33 PM
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Once again , you cant fix stupid but you sure can vote for it
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12-18-2022, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JCart
Clearly Marco and Sparkly Sox wanted to trot out a “knowledgeable” liberal that supports their proposed firearms bill and pulled the gender card as well. Sadly her notions about “22 gauge” and references to levers, bolt and break actions are indeed included in the prohibited list of firearms, Ruger #1 is a lever gun, Mark 5s and variants are bolts and with break actions above 10,000 jewels…. Liberals continue to shoot themselves in the foot over this gun confiscation.
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Did she actually call a Ruger # 1 a lever gun as opposed to a single shot? She has probably never seen one
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12-18-2022, 06:38 PM
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Did she actually call a Ruger # 1 a lever gun as opposed to a single shot? She has probably never seen one
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She is just totally clueless about firearms, on the other hand the RCMP technical specialist Murray Smith outright lied, when he stated that the Mossberg 715T was an AR variant.
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12-18-2022, 07:58 PM
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I think the people surrounding the turd is `more stupider`( had to put it in their language), you have to be to follow him around and agreeing with him. All this crap is going to be the end of their careers. The Turd is trying to make himself look `more smart`( lieberal language) by using these MP`s.
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Stupider? Do you really think that is possible? It would be a tough hunt.
Well maybe....but you'd sure have to pick the right places to look. East of the Man/Ont border for sure. Probably pick up one or two on the west coast too.
Yes. I think ya could have that right, 4extreme.
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12-19-2022, 10:41 AM
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Back to the FAC and PAL comment. I am wondering, shouldn’t someone make an inquiry? I mean she did clearly state that she owns at least a rifle and a shotgun (could be lies, but that could be the point too), yet has no idea about the licensing (got confused in “the heat of the moment”?). Maybe I should find and watch the whole video rather than a cut out here and there, but it does appear she is in illegal possession of firearms, according to her statements, no?
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I wonder if a gun dealer can search the PAL database by name instead of PAL#?
Wouldn't it be something if she wasn't licensed to own firearms....
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12-19-2022, 10:50 AM
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I wonder if a gun dealer can search the PAL database by name instead of PAL#?
Wouldn't it be something if she wasn't licensed to own firearms....
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With the FAC comment, one would think she doesn't hold a valid PAL,
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12-19-2022, 11:10 AM
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I wonder if a gun dealer can search the PAL database by name instead of PAL#?
Wouldn't it be something if she wasn't licensed to own firearms....
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That would be fantastic! I wonder if NFA or CCFR would know how to access that info. Just a thought.
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12-19-2022, 11:21 AM
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I highly doubt they would have someone make that statement falsely, knowing how easy it would be to verify as true or false, but you never know.
I do know that many current PAL holder still refer to their license as their "FAC"; I hear it all the time. Some of which are too young to have ever had an FAC and they are just repeating the terminology they learned from their Father's
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12-19-2022, 11:48 AM
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I highly doubt they would have someone make that statement falsely, knowing how easy it would be to verify as true or false, but you never know.
I do know that many current PAL holder still refer to their license as their "FAC"; I hear it all the time. Some of which are too young to have ever had an FAC and they are just repeating the terminology they learned from their Father's
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Yes. I agree with what you say. Nevertheless it would be too good to be true if it could be proven
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12-19-2022, 01:06 PM
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I highly doubt they would have someone make that statement falsely, knowing how easy it would be to verify as true or false, but you never know.
I do know that many current PAL holder still refer to their license as their "FAC"; I hear it all the time. Some of which are too young to have ever had an FAC and they are just repeating the terminology they learned from their Father's
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Then again Murray Smith outright lied in parliament, when he stated that the Mosseberg 715T was an AR variant. The liberals and their minions, don't even seem to care if they get caught lying.
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12-19-2022, 01:30 PM
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Then again Murray Smith outright lied in parliament, when he stated that the Mosseberg 715T was an AR variant. The liberals and their minions, don't even seem to care if they get caught lying.
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That's because they cannot be called liars in the house even if they are spewing nothing but lies. If an opposition was to call them a liar or suggest they are lying they must apologize to the house for calling them out for lying. If they don't apologize they are removed from the house.
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12-19-2022, 02:06 PM
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That's because they cannot be called liars in the house even if they are spewing nothing but lies. If an opposition was to call them a liar or suggest they are lying they must apologize to the house for calling them out for lying. If they don't apologize they are removed from the house.
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I quite like Ian Runkle's comments on Murray Smith. I will paraphrase, "he is either shockingly incompetent or shockingly untruthful and I don't think he is incompetent."
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12-19-2022, 02:12 PM
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Then again Murray Smith outright lied in parliament, when he stated that the Mosseberg 715T was an AR variant. The liberals and their minions, don't even seem to care if they get caught lying.
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Determining whether 1 firearm is variant of another firearm, is based on a physical exam, applying a set of guidelines and rules, and then providing an opinion of the "variant" status.
So are you saying Murray Smith lied about his opinion or that his opinion was wrong?
Murray Smith did state the rules concerning variants changed in 2020, which I suspect was part of Bill C71. He also stated, that the classification of the 715T was amended as a result of those rules changes.
I haven't seen the changes to the variant rules, does anyone have a copy of them? Imagine if it said they only had to look alike.
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12-19-2022, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by brendan's dad
Determining whether 1 firearm is variant of another firearm, is based on a physical exam, applying a set of guidelines and rules, and then providing an opinion of the "variant" status.
So are you saying Murray Smith lied about his opinion or that his opinion was wrong?
Murray Smith did state the rules concerning variants changed in 2020, which I suspect was part of Bill C71. He also stated, that the classification of the 715T was amended as a result of those rules changes.
I haven't seen the changes to the variant rules, does anyone have a copy of them? Imagine if it said they only had to look alike.
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The Mossberg 715T has no parts in common with the AR, and it is not of the same design. The 715t is the same 715 receiver as the Plinkster with plastic cladding added to make it look like a tactical rifle. So if the 715T is an AR variant, so is the 715 Plinkster. Supposedly Murray Smith is paid as an expert, so he would know this, so he lied. The only real difference between Murray Smith and Gudie Hutchings, is that she is so clueless, she didn't know any better, but if she did know better, she likely would have lied just like Murray Smith did, as they will do anything to defend the liberal agenda.
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The Mossberg 715T has no parts in common with the AR, and it is not of the same design. The 715t is the same 715 receiver as the Plinkster with plastic cladding added to make it look like a tactical rifle. So if the 715T is an AR variant, so is the 715 Plinkster. Supposedly Murray Smith is paid as an expert, so he would know this, so he lied. The only real difference between Murray Smith and Gudie Hutchings, is that she is so clueless, she didn't know any better, but if she did know better, she likely would have lied just like Murray Smith did, as they will do anything to defend the liberal agenda.
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So do you have a copy of the new 2020 rules/guidelines for variants? Are you sure that the body style and physical attributes regardless of the frame/receiver is not enough to deem it a variant? I know that I am not sure.
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So do you have a copy of the new 2020 rules/guidelines for variants? Are you sure that the body style and physical attributes regardless of the frame/receiver is not enough to deem it a variant? I know that I am not sure.
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If the RCMP rewrote the rules and guidelines so that adding some plastic cladding to change the appearance, of a firearm changes the classification from non restricted to banned, then the RCMP are just as corrupt as the liberals.
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