Donation's for Conservation Efforts

[Fitzy1994]

Hey everyone

I'm the Vice-President of the Conservation Enforcement Club out of Lethbridge College. We are having our annual Pig Roast, we are looking for donations to raffle off and auction off items in efforts to raise money for the NCC (The Nature Conservancy of Canada) and also the LFGA (Lethbridge Fish and Game Association). These organisations put their time and efforts into wildlife conservation. We are looking for Donations to help raise money for these fantastic conservation groups and we are looking for anything that you would like to donate. If you choose to donate, you are more than welcome to attend the pig roast.

Thanks a lot everyone! Looking forward to hear back!

[Winch101]

That's admirable the college helping out a struggling group like the
NCC . I made a big donation last year , I paid my taxes .

I don't like to help out those charities where the CEO 's salary
Is over 6 figures . But good luck

Some late night reading


http://www.undueinfluence.com/nature_conservancy.htm

They use the word Canada but they are American. Just another phony
Charity .

There in this bit as well ....not rave reviews ...

http://www.businesspundit.com/10-inf...edy-charities/

Allowing big bussiness to use that pristine protected wilderness
Now there's a surprise .

[220swifty]

I'm with winch on this one. No issue with LFGA, but I can't see myself doing anything to support NCC. They only seem to support hunting to serve their purpose and maintain an image of neutrality, but seem to be picking up large amounts of property and making access excessively difficult for sportsmen.

A different conservation/sportsmans group would likely garner more interest. Think DU, or along those lines.

[Fitzy1994]

Our main one that we are raising money for I know is the LFGA, we partner with them. Our goal is to raise enough money to send local kids that are apart of the LFGA to a winter survival camp up at the AHEIA alford lake conservation education camp. That's our first priority.

[Selkirk]

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No offence, but your club might want to seriously consider disassociating itself from the NCC (donations, fundraisers, etc.). There are 'far' better conservation organisations here in Canada to align yourselves with, and support.

My two nickels,

Mac

[nc21]

Originally Posted by MacLeod

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No offence, but your club might want to seriously consider disassociating itself from the NCC (donations, fundraisers, etc.). There are 'far' better conservation organisations here in Canada to align yourselves with, and support.

My two nickels,

Mac

X2

[Fitzy1994]

Thanks a lot guys,

I will definitely bring it up next meeting. For the major of our efforts is to raise money for the Local LFGA members kids to get sent to the winter survival camp. The ones that do there part for the club and the conservation community and the ones who would like to go to the Survival camp but just don't have the funds to attend the camp. If anybody knows of any businesses that you think that would like to donate products to our club. Contact information to the business would be mighty appreciated. We promote the businesses that donates to our events.

[avb3]

Originally Posted by Winch101

That's admirable the college helping out a struggling group like the
NCC . I made a big donation last year , I paid my taxes .

I don't like to help out those charities where the CEO 's salary
Is over 6 figures . But good luck

Some late night reading


http://www.undueinfluence.com/nature_conservancy.htm

They use the word Canada but they are American. Just another phony
Charity .

There in this bit as well ....not rave reviews ...

http://www.businesspundit.com/10-inf...edy-charities/

Allowing big bussiness to use that pristine protected wilderness
Now there's a surprise .

Any large conservation group in Alberta, the CEO makes over 6 figures. DU, AFGA, ACA or NCC.

[avb3]

Originally Posted by MacLeod

.
No offence, but your club might want to seriously consider disassociating itself from the NCC (donations, fundraisers, etc.). There are 'far' better conservation organisations here in Canada to align yourselves with, and support.

My two nickels,

Mac

The NCC partners with ACA, AFGA and DU on many conservation properties. All of those allow foot access for hunting and fishing. Not sure what your issue with them is.

[220swifty]

Originally Posted by avb3

The NCC partners with ACA, AFGA and DU on many conservation properties. All of those allow foot access for hunting and fishing. Not sure what your issue with them is.

They own several properties around pine lake, where I have tried to gain access for hunting. They way I read into it, they allow hunting, but certainly don't encourage it. Quite the process to get permission, and a pile of rules once you do.

[avb3]

Originally Posted by 220swifty

They own several properties around pine lake, where I have tried to gain access for hunting. They way I read into it, they allow hunting, but certainly don't encourage it. Quite the process to get permission, and a pile of rules once you do.

Which properties? I might be able to help on some.

[Winch101]

In Manitoba I had no success in accessing NCC land ,
And to tell the truth I have never seen any holdings here in Ab.

I would love to see the structure of the partnerships with Game and fish
Clubs and the NCC . As charities go they are pretty normal in Canada ,
That's because most of them are corporations and should be paying taxes .
It's a scam ,I don't care how much land they supposedly save .

If you look at the state of Hunting and Fishing in this province ....then
When the PC s Go ....I hope they take the AFGA with them .
It's a little to early to see if the ACA is legit , so far not bad ,but hey
They look better than the Govt ....how tough is that . Remember the last
Scam ....you can rent yourself a pen in Brooks pretty cheap .

[schmedlap]

Originally Posted by Winch101

That's admirable the college helping out a struggling group like the
NCC . I made a big donation last year , I paid my taxes .

I don't like to help out those charities where the CEO 's salary
Is over 6 figures . But good luck

Some late night reading


http://www.undueinfluence.com/nature_conservancy.htm

They use the word Canada but they are American. Just another phony
Charity .

There in this bit as well ....not rave reviews ...

http://www.businesspundit.com/10-inf...edy-charities/

Allowing big bussiness to use that pristine protected wilderness
Now there's a surprise .

for the research. The problem is, of course, that once these "charities" get big enough, the trough-sucking charity industry profiteers move in and convert them into self-serving conduits for their own benefit. I don't think that has happened to Canada's end of NCC yet (?), and I hope it doesn't, but some diligence in this regard is needed. How do we ensure that the integrity of such organizations is not compromised by these "pros"?

[avb3]

Originally Posted by Winch101

In Manitoba I had no success in accessing NCC land ,
And to tell the truth I have never seen any holdings here in Ab.

I would love to see the structure of the partnerships with Game and fish
Clubs and the NCC . As charities go they are pretty normal in Canada ,
That's because most of them are corporations and should be paying taxes .
It's a scam ,I don't care how much land they supposedly save .

If you look at the state of Hunting and Fishing in this province ....then
When the PC s Go ....I hope they take the AFGA with them .
It's a little to early to see if the ACA is legit , so far not bad ,but hey
They look better than the Govt ....how tough is that . Remember the last
Scam ....you can rent yourself a pen in Brooks pretty cheap .

Winch with all due respect, you have an opinion, but have no clue how the AFGA operates or how the ACA came about.

That ignorance (as in not knowing) is shown in your comments. Educate yourself before spoutingf off.

[borealnprairie]

Originally Posted by avb3

The NCC partners with ACA, AFGA and DU on many conservation properties. All of those allow foot access for hunting and fishing. Not sure what your issue with them is.

Ditto to ^. We've hunted on NCC property near Edmonton with no issues.

[220swifty]

Originally Posted by avb3

Which properties? I might be able to help on some.

Missed this earlier. I will see if I can get that info next time I head out there.

[Freddy]

I will never support a group such as ncc. They have and will severly limit access to sportsman in the back country. Yea they may have partnership with some other real conservation groups. But that is more lip service.

[Winch101]

Someone who gets it .....Freddy for President ...

[avb3]

Originally Posted by Freddy

I will never support a group such as ncc. They have and will severly limit access to sportsman in the back country. Yea they may have partnership with some other real conservation groups. But that is more lip service.

Originally Posted by Winch101

Someone who gets it .....Freddy for President ...

Nope, and neither apparently do you.

I hunted 95% of the time this year on various NCC properties. What surprised the heck out of me is that there was virtually no one else on them, even though they were clearly marked as foot access welcomed.

They have funding sources that help the ACA, AFGA and DU with whom they often partner with. They have staff in Alberta that are avid hunters.

I'm not sure where you get your information, but it is skewed to say the least.

[Winch101]

Land that is co-owned by the NCC and say DU ....I would think
Hunters would have to have access . I would like to see a list
Of solely owned NCC property in Alberta and the Hunting access
Rules .

I posted this a few posts back . I actually picked up Ron Arnold's book
Undue influence , good insight on where a goodly amount of your
Tax dollars are going . This link I'm pretty sure outlines a couple of NCC
Questionable practices.


http://www.undueinfluence.com/nature_conservancy.htm

If you take the time to read this you' ll see the NCC and the U.S. TNC
Are not so much conservationist as real estate agents , investors
And kind of pushy .

Somebody in our Federal Govt likes these guys cause the dough never
Ends .

[avb3]

Originally Posted by Winch101

Land that is co-owned by the NCC and say DU ....I would think
Hunters would have to have access . I would like to see a list
Of solely owned NCC property in Alberta and the Hunting access
Rules .

I posted this a few posts back . I actually picked up Ron Arnold's book
Undue influence , good insight on where a goodly amount of your
Tax dollars are going . This link I'm pretty sure outlines a couple of NCC
Questionable practices.


http://www.undueinfluence.com/nature_conservancy.htm

If you take the time to read this you' ll see the NCC and the U.S. TNC
Are not so much conservationist as real estate agents , investors
And kind of pushy .

Somebody in our Federal Govt likes these guys cause the dough never
Ends .

Well I hope this is the worst conspiracy theory that you come up with this year. But somehow I'm betting it won't be the last.

[Winch101]

NCC says give us your money and we don't give a crap what you do .



http://oilsandstruth.org/nature-cons...tners-ecocrime


I'm not the only one that thinks the NCC platform is full of hooey,


http://wrongkindofgreen.org/category...e-conservancy/