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Old 11-08-2024, 05:04 PM
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I have a 2 acre clearing in our bush that i want to level and make a camp area.

The quarter it is located on is 100 miles from the farm so bringing a tractor with a disc makes no sense.

Im gonna do the work with a Honda quad. So i will need a disc and harrow.

Anyone have any experience with these?

Right now the 2 acres is just high grass with a few anthills. My idea is to buy a disc, throw some cement blocks on it for weight and just drag the hell out of it until the 2 acres is plowed up and kinda level. Then drag the harrow to collect the grass. Probably seed clover afterwards.

Let me know what you think.
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Old 11-08-2024, 05:20 PM
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I used a fairly heavy 4’x5’ harrow behind my Rubicon 500 to scratch up our 20 acre hayfield and knock the horse buns down. It did a good job, I thought, but tim consuming. I’ve never pulled a set of discs, so not sure about that. I just put it in 4 low, and went for a drive.
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Old 11-08-2024, 06:10 PM
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A fella I worked with way back when had a disc for a quad and it sounded like it worked really well if you went over it a few times. I’ve always wanted to give it a try, but never had a chance.
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Old 11-08-2024, 06:17 PM
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Not likely the disc will cut deep thru the sod unless it is sandy.
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Old 11-08-2024, 06:46 PM
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I had a Quadivator once I pulled behind a Grizzly. It will work if the soil is softer. Mine was hard prairie crested wheat and it pulled too hard for the quad.
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Old 11-08-2024, 07:08 PM
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Not likely the disc will cut deep thru the sod unless it is sandy.
I agree. I don’t think a disc made for a quad will be heavy enough but I've been wrong before.

Ideally if you could spray the grass with roundup, mow it a week later and then hit it with the disc you’d be better off. But you’d have to wait until it’s growing again.
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Old 11-08-2024, 07:22 PM
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Mow it, spray it and then keep hitting it with the little disc. Speed and lots of passes will do it.
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Old 11-08-2024, 07:28 PM
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I know a guy that had an acreage and got a disc to pull with his quad, he loaded cement blocks on it to weigh it down more, worked up his entire 4 acre lot about 1/2 way through the 3rd go he cooked the transmission on his quad, most of them are not really designed for sustained towing of heavy loads
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Old 11-08-2024, 07:50 PM
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I've got a disc for a garden tractor that should be be right size somewhere.
I'll have a look in the daylight.
If it's there you can borrow it, as long as it never comes back...
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Old 11-08-2024, 08:17 PM
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An acreage neighbor bought I think it was called quadavator. Basically a cultivator. Really useless. He put a bunch of metal on it for weight. Expensive waste of time. He had a big quad to.
Is a small tractor with a plow an option? You must have a farmer neighbor? If you are dealing with tree roots I don't know if Even a plow would work. Really I think you have a perfect excuse to buy a D8.
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Old 11-08-2024, 08:38 PM
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Would i get banned for sending disc pics?
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Old 11-08-2024, 08:40 PM
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I used lengths of green poplar for weight on the harrows working mine. No experience with quad disc but ran a 8’ disc behind a 40hp tractor loaded down with rocks and it was a waste of time for me. Switched to a 5 tooth cultivator and found that worked pretty good
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Old 11-08-2024, 08:51 PM
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I agree. I don’t think a disc made for a quad will be heavy enough but I've been wrong before.

Ideally if you could spray the grass with roundup, mow it a week later and then hit it with the disc you’d be better off. But you’d have to wait until it’s growing again.

Kinda my thought about it today too...

I feel like torching it actually......
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Old 11-08-2024, 09:11 PM
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Kinda my thought about it today too...

I feel like torching it actually......
You can always claim there was a ground penetrating radar scan that showed anomalies, and burn it down with much approval...it would be understandable. You could probably even get a grant for a million or two to dig it up...with a D7....or something something...
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You can always claim there was a ground penetrating radar scan that showed anomalies, and burn it down with much approval...it would be understandable. You could probably even get a grant for a million or two to dig it up...with a D7....or something something...

Lol

Considering it's on the old indian trail to BC, i could likely get away with it
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Lol

Considering it's on the old indian trail to BC, i could likely get away with it
Hire me as a Consultant. I've got expert opinions on digging. There's another $500,000 right there for me, and I'll propose something something and get you an extra million for anomalies...

Win win.
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If you removed every 2nd blade then the disc may cut deeper but that means you will have to go over the field more times. Will be less drag on the quad.
I have pulled a disc with a truck.
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Old 11-08-2024, 10:34 PM
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Go diagonal one way, then across the other. Be rougher but more efficient. Perhaps around the patch, then a couple diagonals again. Personally, I find clover gets high, rank, and the stalks are thick & strong. I'd just let the quack grass reseed itself, won't take long if it rains
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Old 11-09-2024, 08:54 AM
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I know a fellow who has a like new "Quadivator" designed to pull behind a quad, hydraulic lift driven by 12V, he will sell it. Contact me for pics.
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Old 11-09-2024, 11:50 AM
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Any quad and disk that it might pull is much to lite to break raw land. Just take look at typical breaking plow pulled by D7 cat. A 40 Hp tractor with heavy disk or 0ne-way could do the job but anything pulled behind quad will just tickle the ground.
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Old 11-09-2024, 10:10 PM
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If you can avoid spraying I would. Typically all that happens there is it promotes weed growth immediately. If its not too rocky i would just mow it often. Once its down and mowed you could broad cast your clover and harrow that in and hope the rains do the rest.
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Old 11-10-2024, 12:08 AM
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Would i get banned for sending disc pics?
😂🤣😂. That was good!!
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Old 11-10-2024, 05:52 AM
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Acreage Tractor & Tiller.......
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Old 11-10-2024, 09:34 AM
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Ive used those quad discs before and all I can say is dont waste your time for what you are describing. Spray it, mow it really short (scalp it) and then go to a nearby rental place and rent a tractor with a rototiller or even a skidsteer with the fron tiller type attachment. You will be happy you did that instead of the quad disc way. They just arent made to break up a sod layer, no matter how much weight you put on them. Just like the pull behind aerators. Im actually going down the road of investing in a golf course aerator for the tractor because I got sick of trying to make the pull behind work.
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Old 11-10-2024, 10:10 AM
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Ive used those quad discs before and all I can say is dont waste your time for what you are describing. Spray it, mow it really short (scalp it) and then go to a nearby rental place and rent a tractor with a rototiller or even a skidsteer with the fron tiller type attachment. You will be happy you did that instead of the quad disc way. They just arent made to break up a sod layer, no matter how much weight you put on them. Just like the pull behind aerators. Im actually going down the road of investing in a golf course aerator for the tractor because I got sick of trying to make the pull behind work.

Good info! Thanks. I appreciate it.
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A couple of years ago I bought a Princess Auto 33 inch disk harrow and a drag harrow for doing some ground breakup work after my landlord stripped top soil off about an acre at the rear of the property where we live (for use elsewhere at one of his construction properties). Pretty heavy soil with a lot of clay. I quickly learned it needed weight so I made some weight boxes for on top and added concrete blocks. Then it did an okay job breaking up soil about 2-3 inches deep with multiple passes. Then I dragged a Princess Auto drag harrow over it all and that broke up the chunks left and smoothed things out pretty well. Then I just let whatever grow and now have a decent back field of grass and clover!!! Smoothest 'lawn' on the property!

On sod the disk harrow does nothing, even with weight added.

In a couple of weeks I will be bringing the disk to my son's bush 50 acres. We have been clearing a spot for a food plot in a big area of blowdowns where a 'downburst' knocked over many trees, a massive job as it looks like a 'pick up sticks' game, trees (cedar, pine, spruce, birch, etc.) laying every which way. We just spent a couple of days partially clearing and cleaning up about a 1/4 acre. I used about 6 litres of fuel in my Stihl 126 just trimming, de-limbing and cutting logs to length! If frost holds off here we hope to begin preparing for spring seeding the initial food plot.

What we plan to do is use the MiniEx excavator my son bought, using the grapple claw (which does an amazing job picking up logs and brush and larger rocks) to 'scratch' the surface, drag out surface roots and stuff, and break up the top soil maybe about 6 inches deep, then we'll disk the area, and then drag harrow it all. That, we believe, will do an excellent job .

Of course, the area we are working on will only be about a quarter acre so it is doable with what we've got to work it. It would take a long time to do a couple of acres.
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Old 11-11-2024, 10:38 AM
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Easy enough to pay the local farmer to swing in with the field disc or breaking disc and do a bunch of laps. Done right in less then a couple hours after you spray and mow.
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I’d see if a Neighbor to this property can do something for ya
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I’d see if a Neighbor to this property can do something for ya
Yes. Already did that way before I posted. I figure I can buy the equipment for a quad based on the $800 the farmers wanted to plow 2.5 acres

Which is why Im asking if anyone had experience with these quad harrows and discs........
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Old 11-11-2024, 01:28 PM
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Yes. Already did that way before I posted. I figure I can buy the equipment for a quad based on the $800 the farmers wanted to plow 2.5 acres

Which is why Im asking if anyone had experience with these quad harrows and discs........
I think the neighbor has a reasonable price to do this for you. Equipment is not cheap to run these days and it takes time to get equipment ready no matter the job.

You’ll have spent more than $800 trying to do this yourself once you buy the disc and it probably won’t give you the results you want. Unless you really want to own one I’d just hire the neighbor.
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