Gseven BR-2 rangfinder

[shekaree]

Anyone using one of these yet? I took a peek through one today and was thoroughly impressed, but the thought of spending two grand on a rangefinder gave me indigestion.

http://ww w.gseven.com/products/G7-BR2

[cougar bait]

I used one all fall and it is awesome!! I have the Leica binoculars with built in range finder and they dont even come close to the gseven. The one day in the light snow and fog the leicas would only range 75 yards, and i had the gseven ranging 800 yards!! To have a range finder that consistantly works is priceless. On clear nice days i have had them range 1600 yards. I like how easy they are to program and how you can save 5 different guns in them for easy use. I do alot of hunting in the river valleys and mountains where angles and elevation and wind make a huge difference, would be impossible to accurately shoot these conditions long range without it. To me they are well worth the money.

[depopulator]

CB, does the G7 RF have an option/capacity to enter and operate more than one rifle ballistic data profile (e.g., multiple rifle/load combo's), or is it limited to just the one entered ballistic profile of one specific rifle/load ?

$2000 isn't that bad. Leica binoculars - geovid are more expensive yet. The first pair of Geovids I had back in 2006 went back to Leica due a ranging problem max of 600 yds. The replacement set worked fine.

Cougar bait if you still have your Leica geovids that only ranged 80 yards, I would sent it in for warranty or at least inspection/testing.

Shekaree another item which some people find useful is the ability to switch between meters and yards. Not achievable with all lasers.

It will be interesting to see what pops up in 2013 since the introduction of the gunworks G7.

[cougar bait]

The G7 can have 5 different guns programmed in it so you just switch back and forth easily.
The reason my leicas wouldnt range is because they have to be used in perfect conditions. They will range out to 1300 yards on a clear day, but leica has not figured out how to range in poor conditions like the gunwerks boys did. Just a difference in lasers. They are suppost to be working on it.

[shekaree]

I have leica 1600 and lieca geovid. Both didn't work this hunting season while it was snowing. My buddy's lieca was doing the same. None were reading beyond 40 yards in snow. All 3 were working fine once snowing was over.

[Outy girl]

Originally Posted by shekaree

I have leica 1600 and lieca geovid. Both didn't work this hunting season while it was snowing. My buddy's lieca was doing the same. None were reading beyond 40 yards in snow. All 3 were working fine once snowing was over.

Hmmm any recommendation on a really cheap one?

Originally Posted by cougar bait

The G7 can have 5 different guns programmed in it so you just switch back and forth easily.
The reason my leicas wouldnt range is because they have to be used in perfect conditions. They will range out to 1300 yards on a clear day, but leica has not figured out how to range in poor conditions like the gunwerks boys did. Just a difference in lasers. They are suppost to be working on it.

Will have to look into this. I suspect if this is possible, they are giving up something else that the others offer. If the light can't find its way to the target or back I can't see how it can work. I suspect if reliable operation in adverse conditions is possible, the G7 must be advertised to work in adverse conditions....

[Lefty-Canuck]

Interesting...

From their website:

Another unique feature is four distinct targeting modes that enhance target detection in tough light conditions and unsurpassed ranging in rain, snow, and fog. The targeting modes are Nearest Target, Farthest Target, Strongest Target, and Continuous (scan) Ranging. It has never been easier to range an Elk on a slope of burnt timber, or Pronghorn on the rolling plains, or Coyotes on a snow covered field.

LC

Couldn't get the specification sectino on gunwerks page to work to see the specs. Longrange website mentions this about the gunwerks laser device:

CON:
• Range limited to around 1800 yards in perfect ranging conditions
• Ballistic solution only available to 1400 yards
• If you can see the target and know the distance but fog/rain won’t allow a reading, no ballistic info is available.

The 3rd bullet is the one that tells us the rangefinder has a hard time ranging in adverse (atmosphere contaminated, I don't see why this wouldn't include snow) conditions and as a result the ballistic feature isn't useful either.

I suppose if they had a feature to input the range manually, you could continue to use the device. I suppose for the interim, this is one short coming of the device.

[Lefty-Canuck]

I agree with the above...

I am wondering about claims of ranging in rain, snow and fog....moisture in air causes refraction and obstruction of light and lazers....if they found a way around it then they have something amazing.

LC

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Interesting...

From their website:

Another unique feature is four distinct targeting modes that enhance target detection in tough light conditions and unsurpassed ranging in rain, snow, and fog. The targeting modes are Nearest Target, Farthest Target, Strongest Target, and Continuous (scan) Ranging. It has never been easier to range an Elk on a slope of burnt timber, or Pronghorn on the rolling plains, or Coyotes on a snow covered field.

LC

Finallly found that quote on the G7 website as opposed to the gunwerks site. I'll have to flip through some older precision shooting magazines as that detector looks very familar to a model offered years ago (without the ballastics etc. features). Can't recall the darn company now.....

[Lr1000]

I own the G7 br2 and also the lieca 1600. Both are good range finders in there own rights. The G7 is larger and the glass is not near the clarity of the lieca. How ever ranging further targets is much easier and the internal ballistic Compensation works very well and gives you split second shoot to ranges. I would highly recommend the G7 to anyone wanting to shoot out past 600 yards. And would even think of hunting at those ranges with out it.

I don't have the time, but I had to find that one laser company. Went back to 1995 issues finally found their advertising in 1997....(I guess I have no priorities)....probably a different company lol...

XLR Rangefinder - NAIT North American Integrated Technologies. 2000 yards, Made in the USA eye safe! Based out of California. Couldn't find them on the net but the company name is now in Texas and does a variety of things.

In 1997 they were selling for under $2000.

[Ivo]

The Terrapin is also an option in this price range. Guys are regularly ranging out to 4000+ yards.

Originally Posted by shekaree

Anyone using one of these yet? I took a peek through one today and was thoroughly impressed, but the thought of spending two grand on a rangefinder gave me indigestion.

http://ww w.gseven.com/products/G7-BR2

so did you buy one yet? Let us here how it compares to the others..

[shekaree]

Originally Posted by Precisionshooter

so did you buy one yet? Let us here how it compares to the others..

Yes. I bought one few months ago and I have to say, I bought it way to late. I should have it the day it came out for sale. I sold my Leica 1600 B once I got this one. It gives me the distance and then in 1.5 seconds it display the adjustment in MOA. I just turn that MOA on my Nightforce and compensate for the wind and it is good to go.

My most successful shots so far are at 1115 yards on a 18" gong and 3 inche group at 834 yards, dead coyote at 920 yards and yes, I missed one coyote at 1225 because I forgot to compensate for the wind.

So overall I am very pleased with it and if someone can afford 1800 AND want to do long range shooting, this will help big time.

[shekaree]

Originally Posted by depopulator

CB, does the G7 RF have an option/capacity to enter and operate more than one rifle ballistic data profile (e.g., multiple rifle/load combo's), or is it limited to just the one entered ballistic profile of one specific rifle/load ?

Yes, you can enter upto 5 different rifle/ballistic data profile.

Originally Posted by shekaree

Yes, you can enter upto 5 different rifle/ballistic data profile.

I take it you still have to enter some atmospheric data in manually if you want to or does it give you exact altitude/temp/wind etc.?

I didn't see a bluetooth option to extract data from a Kestral unit at all.

I suppose if you can live with a monocular unit it might not be a bad buy.

The Geovid, kestral and smartphone concept means you need 3 devices in the field but the atmospheric data retreived via bluetooth will be spot on for the ballistics program.