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11-12-2024, 08:40 PM
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Worth every penny
These are amazing. They solve a lot of the prc issues
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11-12-2024, 09:27 PM
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Quite the outfit, their hand loading division is just a small art of the whle outfit, some pretty space age looking equipment!
https://bulletcentral.com/micron-precision/?page=2
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11-12-2024, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 1dayillgetaram
These are amazing. They solve a lot of the prc issues
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What issues have you been having with your prc? Which caliber?
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11-12-2024, 09:42 PM
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Clickers
Big problem with all of the prc line
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11-13-2024, 10:20 AM
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From my understanding and reading about it: there is a slight bulge at the base of the round, just below where a standard sizing die just doesn't reach and size the brass.
How are these helping that?
The micro seating would have no effect on that issue!
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11-13-2024, 10:29 AM
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Clickers
Big problem with all of the prc line
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“Clickers”. Now there’s a highly technical term!
Care to embellish upon this?
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11-13-2024, 11:56 AM
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Clickers
Big problem with all of the prc line
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I was under the impression that minor changes to the reamers ( increasing diameter at the base) had pretty much eliminated this problem. AW2 and Manson M1 reamers should solve the issue. I have a 6.5 and 7 PRC and have had zero clicker issues with either. Cases on the 7 have minimum 6 firings at full throttle, 6.5 cases have 4. I can’t say which reamer was used for the 6.5, the 7 was cut with a Manson M1.
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11-13-2024, 12:15 PM
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I was under the impression a bunch of people had tried making dies that would size the PRC bases, and they didn't really work properly, some had even split die bodies doing it, trying to make a Willis style die to do it, then came Alex Wheeler's PRCW reamer style which opened the chamber at the .200 line, and that cured it. IIRC it was something like .003 or .005 bigger in that area. There are some threads on Accurate Shooter and Long Range Hunting about it, Wheeler gets into it on one of them. Seems to me there was a thread on here about it that referred to all that.
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11-13-2024, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dick284
“Clickers”. Now there’s a highly technical term!
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Been previous discussions on here about the issue. Do a search
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11-13-2024, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 32-40win
I was under the impression a bunch of people had tried making dies that would size the PRC bases, and they didn't really work properly, some had even split die bodies doing it, trying to make a Willis style die to do it, then came Alex Wheeler's PRCW reamer style which opened the chamber at the .200 line, and that cured it. IIRC it was something like .003 or .005 bigger in that area. There are some threads on Accurate Shooter and Long Range Hunting about it, Wheeler gets into it on one of them. Seems to me there was a thread on here about it that referred to all that.
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The saami spec prc dimension at the .200 line is .533 if I recall correctly. The aw reamer bumps that to .535. If you have a die that doesn’t move the .200 line back to .530 even with the aw2 reamer, you’ll still have issues. New lapua brass is .529. My Whidden dies won’t touch the .200 line. It doesn’t move it at all .5345 even after the aw2 reamer. The micron die moves the base back to new.
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11-15-2024, 10:26 AM
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A different dog then the PRC cartidges but Alpha factory 6mm Dasher brass had this problem. Up to .473 at 200 line instead of .469. With the improved "Optimized case design Technology" they claim brass plastically deforms less then competitors at identical loads resulting in better consistency , brass life and overall performance.
A bunch hit the scrap brass box and im staying with Lapua , still use Whidden die and never had a clicker problem since.
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11-15-2024, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Ackleyman
A different dog then the PRC cartidges but Alpha factory 6mm Dasher brass had this problem. Up to .473 at 200 line instead of .469. With the improved "Optimized case design Technology" they claim brass plastically deforms less then competitors at identical loads resulting in better consistency , brass life and overall performance.
A bunch hit the scrap brass box and im staying with Lapua , still use Whidden die and never had a clicker problem since.
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Long been a problem with 6ppc brass and the high pressures used in competition. Been a plethora of custom dies dreamed up over the decades to successfully overcome the problem.
In reality it shouldn't be a problem if dies actually sized down to the extractor groove. If rifle manufacturers, cartridge and die designers and engineers thought about what they were doing and worked together when they dream up all these new cartridges this shouldn't ever be a problem, yet here it is.
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11-15-2024, 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick284
“Clickers”. Now there’s a highly technical term!
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Clickers are on all the Doo TRA clutches. Work great for a quick adjustment
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