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Poilievre
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre on Current Situation of Canada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44XYFxLiGq0
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11-26-2022, 06:03 PM
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I hope the rest of Canada can see what a great leader he would be, come the next election.
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11-26-2022, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by curtz
I hope the rest of Canada can see what a great leader he would be, come the next election.
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I think he is the man we need. Let’s hope east of Manitoba they feel the same.
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11-26-2022, 07:30 PM
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It's kind of depressing when you look at what the country/province is vs what I think we could be.
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11-26-2022, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by curtz
I hope the rest of Canada can see what a great leader he would be, come the next election.
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He wants to get rid of the English requirement for Immigrants. We have enough problems as is, lowering the requirement even more would just Fast track Canada to its inevitable demise. Unless he backtrack on this, He is not much better than Trudeau.
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11-26-2022, 07:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FortMac
He wants to get rid of the English requirement for Immigrants. We have enough problems as is, lowering the requirement even more would just Fast track Canada to its inevitable demise. Unless he backtrack on this, He is not much better than Trudeau.
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Really, English isn't required for immigration puts him on the exact same level as Trudeau?!? Not even close my friend, not even close....
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11-26-2022, 08:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FortMac
He wants to get rid of the English requirement for Immigrants. We have enough problems as is, lowering the requirement even more would just Fast track Canada to its inevitable demise. Unless he backtrack on this, He is not much better than Trudeau.
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Does that mean you'll be voting for Jughead?
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11-26-2022, 08:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FortMac
He wants to get rid of the English requirement for Immigrants. We have enough problems as is, lowering the requirement even more would just Fast track Canada to its inevitable demise. Unless he backtrack on this, He is not much better than Trudeau.
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Really?
Neither of my parents spoke a word of english when they arrived. But they were good people who knew how to work hard and were more than willing to assimilate.
That was 1967.
Language isn't the problem, it's the willingness to assimilate that is the current issue with most mmigrants, I feel.
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11-26-2022, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CBintheNorth
Really?
Neither of my parents spoke a word of english when they arrived. But they were good people who knew how to work hard and were more than willing to assimilate.
That was 1967.
Language isn't the problem, it's the willingness to assimilate that is the current issue with most mmigrants, I feel.
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I wouldn’t even say it’s the willingness to assimilate
I think a lot of the new ones lack the will to contribute
The government gives them money for nothing
So why do more?
They learn how to take advantage of the system and are ok with it
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11-26-2022, 08:28 PM
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He is a politician. He knows how to tickle people ears.
But he let slip what his solution is, which is not a solution at all.
He wants more laws, laws to force a government that ignores laws, to do what they should be doing because it is what is needed.
Laws that will be less effective then laws against addictive recreational drugs.
Laws that will be less effective then laws against gangs using guns to eliminate their rivals.
More laws that the next government can rescind or build loopholes into.
Laws that Trudeau can sidestep with Orders in Council.
Did you know that in Canada an Order in Council is not available to the PM under the law? It is an instrument by which the governor general, not the Prime Minister may enforce matters under his Authority.
It is not a means to create law but rather a means to reign in government abuse of their authority.
If Mr. Poilievre were proposing a way to reign in Trudeau's abuse of power then I would listen.
Until Mr. Trydeau is held to account nothing else matters.
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11-26-2022, 08:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FortMac
He wants to get rid of the English requirement for Immigrants. We have enough problems as is, lowering the requirement even more would just Fast track Canada to its inevitable demise. Unless he backtrack on this, He is not much better than Trudeau.
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Language is not the issue. Ever since Canada became a country people who couldn't speak English have been coming here and helping build this country.
But you are looking in the right direction.
Language is not the issue but buying the immigrant vote is.
Welcoming people who are not refugees and who bring nothing more of benefit to Canadians then a vote for Liberals is the problem.
We do not need more convenience store workers. We don't need more Motel owners. We don't need more Taxi drivers.
But that is what is coming into Canada under the Liberals rule.
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11-26-2022, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by marky_mark
I wouldn’t even say it’s the willingness to assimilate
I think a lot of the new ones lack the will to contribute
The government gives them money for nothing
So why do more?
They learn how to take advantage of the system and are ok with it
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I think so too!
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11-26-2022, 10:14 PM
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Hes not a real person. He is designed, ever since his early days as a back bencher.
Career politicians are not to be trusted. They have no fall back plan in life so just like a weasel they'll chew their own leg if it means to live another day.
She's a sad state of affairs when our PM is the only one of the big 3 that had a real job. Between drama teachers and whatever the funk he did on that ski hill...we are all doomed!
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11-26-2022, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ESOXangler
Hes not a real person. He is designed, ever since his early days as a back bencher.
Career politicians are not to be trusted. They have no fall back plan in life so just like a weasel they'll chew their own leg if it means to live another day.
She's a sad state of affairs when our PM is the only one of the big 3 that had a real job. Between drama teachers and whatever the funk he did on that ski hill...we are all doomed!
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Trudeau was a trust fund child, that never actually earned the money to pay his bills, so he has never actually had a "real" full time job. Poilievre at least supported himself, even if it was in politics.
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11-26-2022, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
Trudeau was a trust fund child, that never actually earned the money to pay his bills, so he has never actually had a "real" full time job. Poilievre at least supported himself, even if it was in politics.
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Bah both had it easier than most.
And Trudeau did have a actual job regardless of whether he required income. I'm not defending the grease bag.
Neither are decent people. Don't let cognitive bias and media get ya down.
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11-26-2022, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KegRiver
Language is not the issue. Ever since Canada became a country people who couldn't speak English have been coming here and helping build this country.
But you are looking in the right direction.
Language is not the issue but buying the immigrant vote is.
Welcoming people who are not refugees and who bring nothing more of benefit to Canadians then a vote for Liberals is the problem.
We do not need more convenience store workers. We don't need more Motel owners. We don't need more Taxi drivers.
But that is what is coming into Canada under the Liberals rule.
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Who is going to fill the service sector jobs if we stop immigration to Canada?
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11-27-2022, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by NCC
Who is going to fill the service sector jobs if we stop immigration to Canada?
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Canadians. There's no written rule saying we need to pay these people dirt wages so the owners can make a bunch of money. That way of thinking needs to change
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11-27-2022, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by NCC
Who is going to fill the service sector jobs if we stop immigration to Canada?
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Who filled those jobs before the Liberals threw the door open?
Do you realize that government overspending triggered the Asian invasion, not the lack of workers.
Do you realize that government social assistance is availble to those who can work but chose not to but not availble to those who can't work but want to.
Do you really think Trudeau cares about the poor in other countries when he so clearly does not care one whit for Canadians forced to live below the poverty line.
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11-27-2022, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by marky_mark
I wouldn’t even say it’s the willingness to assimilate
I think a lot of the new ones lack the will to contribute
The government gives them money for nothing
So why do more?
They learn how to take advantage of the system and are ok with it
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Recently we’ve hired 3 Ukraine refugees. Yes language is a problem and they’re making an effort to learn to communicate. What’s funny is they can write English fairly well but have a hard time speaking the language. They’re hard workers who show up every day. Not standing at a stop light looking for handouts.
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11-27-2022, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by NCC
Who is going to fill the service sector jobs if we stop immigration to Canada?
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By the way, I would really appreciate it if you could point me to where I said we should stop immigration to Canada.
You would do me a huge favor if you did, cause I certainly did not mean to say that.
Thank you.
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11-27-2022, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FortMac
Canadians. There's no written rule saying we need to pay these people dirt wages so the owners can make a bunch of money. That way of thinking needs to change
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Quadruple whammy.
Immigration currently puts downward pressure on wages, upward pressure on housing costs, actually reduces demand/spending in this country as many immigrants remit a significant portion of their income to their home country (particularly the Philippines), and their social/health care costs are borne by everyone else. Immigration is currently a net cost to Canada as a whole -- but a boon to people who employ scab labour.
There is no labour shortage in Canada. There's only a shortage of people willing to do something for nothing.
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11-27-2022, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ESOXangler
Hes not a real person. He is designed, ever since his early days as a back bencher.
Career politicians are not to be trusted. They have no fall back plan in life so just like a weasel they'll chew their own leg if it means to live another day.
She's a sad state of affairs when our PM is the only one of the big 3 that had a real job. Between drama teachers and whatever the funk he did on that ski hill...we are all doomed!
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At least PP can and will answer direct questions. Just listen to him speak in parliament. He's more than capable of coherent speech for extended periods and does so consistently. Whether or not you agree with everything he says, the intelect he clearly has on matters of state and economics is monumental over the simpleton across the house. And Jughead? Take a pick because that's all the constitution will give you unless you want to go out and prove you're any better.
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11-27-2022, 04:59 PM
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Poilievre is the same general package in a different colour bow. Buyer beware.
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11-27-2022, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pathfinder76
Poilievre is the same general package in a different colour bow. Buyer beware.
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What's the alternative, the Turd or Jughead? Not ****!n likely!
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11-27-2022, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Pathfinder76
Poilievre is the same general package in a different colour bow. Buyer beware.
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You've just shown us what's wrong with the electoral system. If you’re not a part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.
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Originally Posted by FortMac
Canadians. There's no written rule saying we need to pay these people dirt wages so the owners can make a bunch of money. That way of thinking needs to change
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Which service sector owners are making a bunch of money?
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Originally Posted by Pathfinder76
Poilievre is the same general package in a different colour bow. Buyer beware.
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Seriously Chuck? If your not for PP your for the Turd. That’s just the way it is.
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11-27-2022, 07:31 PM
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Seriously Chuck? If your not for PP your for the Turd. That’s just the way it is.
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EXACTLY. Unless you think Jughead or Elizabeth May has a hope in hell of being our next PM. Pffft.
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If it was Trudeau or SpongeBob SquarePants I'd vote for the Sponge.
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11-27-2022, 09:05 PM
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Seriously Chuck? If your not for PP your for the Turd. That’s just the way it is.
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Nonsense.
By that measure all those who are unable to vote are liberal supporters, that is complete nonsense.
That would make my 103 year old mom a Liberal supporter. If you even suggested that to her it'd kill her.
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