News from U of C Prion lab

[goldscud]

https://news.ucalgary.ca/news/chroni...oT1vERnTjAQX4w

[Pathfinder76]

And yet again, it’s never happened. This CWD research is really annoying.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

And yet again, it’s never happened. This CWD research is really annoying.

100%

Some one wanted to get published and have their name in a paper
That’s all

[walking buffalo]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

And yet again, it’s never happened. This CWD research is really annoying.

This comment resonates with what the British parliament told its citizens, until it was proven that BSE was in fact transmittable to humans.

Your annoyance reveals a strong confirmation bias.


This type of research is analogous to NASA research.
It may appear useless to many, yet they fail to realize how much the science has positively impacted their daily lives.

[GoneOutdoors]

This is even better though - cause we needed a research team to discover the migration was genetically ingrained into the animals...




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[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

100%

Some one wanted to get published and have their name in a paper
That’s all

Most Media head lines these days start with, an Expert says , or a Study Found.

Grizz

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

This comment resonates with what the British parliament told its citizens, until it was proven that BSE was in fact transmittable to humans.

Your annoyance reveals a strong confirmation bias.


This type of research is analogous to NASA research.
It may appear useless to many, yet they fail to realize how much the science has positively impacted their daily lives.

Walking Buffalo. Do you have ANY evidence that CWD transmits to humans?

It’s the same nonsense story every single time. I’d like to know who’s money is funding this scam. Really.

Is this 20/21 science or the real thing?

[FortMac]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

Walking Buffalo. Do you have ANY evidence that CWD transmits to humans?

It’s the same nonsense story every single time. I’d like to know who’s money is funding this scam. Really.

Is this 20/21 science or the real thing?

Are you implying CWD is a Scam?

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by FortMac

Are you implying CWD is a Scam?

Cwd originated in Colorado not Alberta
The only place that is trying to force cwd infections to be transferred to humans is here in Alberta
No one else is this dumb

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by FortMac

Are you implying CWD is a Scam?

The scam is the “scientists” that keep milking this theory of transmission for money.

[goldscud]

Ya, we should probably just stop all scientific investigation where the answer isn't just obvious from the begining. I mean all the incredible medical advancements we now have just fell into someone's lap, not from years of digging through experiments.

Lots of things to learn:

"Another “compelling” finding by the researchers is that CWD may show up differently in humans than in animals and other human prion diseases, and be difficult to diagnose with current methods used to screen for human prion disease. “Biochemically, the signature of this transmission is different from the classical signature of other prion diseases,” says Hannaoui.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by goldscud

Ya, we should probably just stop all scientific investigation where the answer isn't just obvious from the begining. I mean all the incredible medical advancements we now have just fell into someone's lap, not from years of digging through experiments.

Lots of things to learn:

"Another “compelling” finding by the researchers is that CWD may show up differently in humans than in animals and other human prion diseases, and be difficult to diagnose with current methods used to screen for human prion disease. “Biochemically, the signature of this transmission is different from the classical signature of other prion diseases,” says Hannaoui.

“May” show up differently
We don’t know what we are looking for, but it may be there. We don’t know how to look for it, or what it looks like. But believe us, there could be something there.

This isn’t something like dark matter
This isn’t even theoretical
This is a plain assumption or guess
Just to justify the wasted money on the study

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

Is this 20/21 science or the real thing?

[walking buffalo]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

Walking Buffalo. Do you have ANY evidence that CWD transmits to humans?

It’s the same nonsense story every single time. I’d like to know who’s money is funding this scam. Really.

Is this 20/21 science or the real thing?

So you think this is Nonsense....

With CWD spreading continent wide, and more people consuming infected meat every year.,
Hundreds of thousands, if not a million meals a year now include CWD infected meat, a disease that is absolutely 100% fatal.

We now know plants will uptake CWD prions from infected soil, plants such as corn and wheat, which hundreds of millions of people are eating.

And you think it is nonsense to study for potential transmission to humans....


Judging from the mental decline of AO over the years, I'd say that's pretty good evidence.

[marky_mark]

Thinking from another perspective
Should they be forcing humanize mice to become infected with this new potential prion or disease. If we don’t know what we are looking for or how to detect it?
The world is recovering from Covid 19
The two likeliest causes of it are that it was released by accident from a lab/experiment or from people eating bats
I don’t think we need anything to be accidentally released here because someone is forcing something wouldn’t happen under conditions outside of a lab
What is the greater risk?

[Remps17]

Judging from the mental decline of AO over the years, I'd say that's pretty good evidence. [/QUOTE]

This is the comment of the day. Haha

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by goldscud

Ya, we should probably just stop all scientific investigation where the answer isn't just obvious from the begining. I mean all the incredible medical advancements we now have just fell into someone's lap, not from years of digging through experiments.

Lots of things to learn:

"Another “compelling” finding by the researchers is that CWD may show up differently in humans than in animals and other human prion diseases, and be difficult to diagnose with current methods used to screen for human prion disease. “Biochemically, the signature of this transmission is different from the classical signature of other prion diseases,” says Hannaoui.

In other words we have no clue. Send money. Lol.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

So you think this is Nonsense....

With CWD spreading continent wide, and more people consuming infected meat every year.,
Hundreds of thousands, if not a million meals a year now include CWD infected meat, a disease that is absolutely 100% fatal.

We now know plants will uptake CWD prions from infected soil, plants such as corn and wheat, which hundreds of millions of people are eating.

And you think it is nonsense to study for potential transmission to humans....


Judging from the mental decline of AO over the years, I'd say that's pretty good evidence.

And yet NO ONE has it. We go round and round on this every two years.

[Remps17]

Where I stand on the topic is that research is necessary.

Where I struggle is how many people, organizations and schools need to study it. There are huge multi state studies in the US that have and are taking place. Why put resources into the same or similar studies. What are they hoping to find that hasn’t been found with all the previous studies.

That said. I am sure schools have grant dollars that need to be used up through research. Correct me if I am wrong

[robfraser]

Yale University did autopsies on 44 Alzheimer’s patients.
13% had CJD?

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by Remps17

Where I stand on the topic is that research is necessary.

Where I struggle is how many people, organizations and schools need to study it. There are huge multi state studies in the US that have and are taking place. Why put resources into the same or similar studies. What are they hoping to find that hasn’t been found with all the previous studies.

That said. I am sure schools have grant dollars that need to be used up through research. Correct me if I am wrong

Is there even a consensus on how it is transmitted?

[ghostguy6]

This is how Universities spend their research money.
"I say Im going to prove something that can not be proved, apply for grant money then spend it on liquor and broads"

[brewster29]

Originally Posted by ghostguy6

This is how Universities spend their research money.
"I say Im going to prove something that can not be proved, apply for grant money then spend it on liquor and broads"

At least then the money wasn't wasted!

Reminded me of the old joke where a crotchety old man was asked how he planned to spend his lottery winnings: " I am going to spend 90% of it on booze and prostitutes, then waste the rest."

[Big Grey Wolf]

Guys maybe a little common sense. When major Mad Cow outbreak in UK they had exponential increase in outbreak in humans. Prions are prions regardless of the name you give them weather for cattle, sheep, deer or humans. Prions do not care what kind of brain they chew up.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf

Guys maybe a little common sense. When major Mad Cow outbreak in UK they had exponential increase in outbreak in humans. Prions are prions regardless of the name you give them weather for cattle, sheep, deer or humans. Prions do not care what kind of brain they chew up.

Incorrect

Mad cow disease didn’t infect cats or dogs or other mammals

Just like cwd hasn’t affected livestock or humans

If you do some searching into causes of cjd, eating infected livestock is barely even mentioned
Most cases were cause by reused hospital equipment

[Who Da Fisherman]

Finished your sentence for you!

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

So you think this is Nonsense....

With CWD spreading continent wide, and more people consuming infected meat every year.,
Hundreds of thousands, if not a million meals a year now include CWD infected meat, a disease that is absolutely 100% fatal IN ANIMALS ONLY!

We now know plants will uptake CWD prions from infected soil, plants such as corn and wheat, which hundreds of millions of people are eating.

And you think it is nonsense to study for potential transmission to humans....


Judging from the mental decline of AO over the years, I'd say that's pretty good evidence.

[walking buffalo]

Originally Posted by Who Da Fisherman

Finished your sentence for you!

You shouldn't have, there has been enough nonsense in this thread already.

Humans are animals.

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

Humans are animals.

Now your reasoning makes more sense...

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

You shouldn't have, there has been enough nonsense in this thread already.

Humans are animals.

Not all animals are susceptible to the same disease. Again. Is there a documented case anywhere of CWD transmitting to humans?

[dave99]

I’m going to dip a toe into this dumpster fire of a thread to say that MANY of us need not have concrete proof of CWD infection in humans to register that there is a POTENTIAL for infection and morbidity in humans from a prion disease from the same family of infectious proteins as BSE, scrapie, kuru, and Creutzfeld-Jakob, among others.

CWD infection in other species and the stability of prions in soil and grasses is a matter of huge concern to the beef and grain industries, for good reason.

Bottom line is that some of us are concerned about CWD and eating meat from infected animals while some of us aren’t. It’s up to you to choose.

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

Not all animals are susceptible to the same disease. Again. Is there a documented case anywhere of CWD transmitting to humans?