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I have seen some strange questions before, but today is the best that I have seen. A guy posted on Facebook Waterfowl Addicts that his buddy took a shot gun with no choke hunting this morning. They managed to thread one of the other guy's chokes into the gun, but it is sitting about 1/2" recessed into the barrel. Now they are asking if it is okay to shoot the gun on the hunt this morning.
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10-11-2024, 08:54 AM
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I'd say as long as the tube bottoms out, and there's no exposed threads, go for it.
(But I shoot shotguns that are cheap enough to risk having to replace them...)
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10-11-2024, 08:56 AM
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As long as the other guys are shooting extended chokes, it should average out in the blind.
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10-11-2024, 08:57 AM
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Well if between them they have that little knowledge of shotgun chokes neither of them should be shooting one, first shot could be the last for that gun
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10-11-2024, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
I'd say as long as the tube bottoms out, and there's no exposed threads, go for it.
(But I shoot shotguns that are cheap enough to risk having to replace them...)
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We don't know if the choke tube is bottomed against the barrel, or the threads, so no idea if the choke is flush against the barrel, or if there is a gap. We also don't know if the inside diameter of the base of the tube is larger than the barrel ID. With back bored barrels, the choke tube could protrude into the bore.
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10-11-2024, 09:19 AM
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They do walk amongst us……..
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10-11-2024, 09:28 AM
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I don't get how he could even take a gun hunting with no choke, who stores their shotgun with no choke in the barrel? That is even worse than going hunting with no magazine plug in place. I would never store a shotgun with no choke, or no magazine plug, because both can get a person in trouble. But to even think that screwing the wrong choke into a barrel, and even considering shooting it, is beyond ridiculous.
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10-11-2024, 09:40 AM
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I just checked the calendar, thought it may be April 1st again, but nope. Can't wait to hear how this turns out.
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10-11-2024, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
I don't get how he could even take a gun hunting with no choke, who stores their shotgun with no choke in the barrel? That is even worse than going hunting with no magazine plug in place. I would never store a shotgun with no choke, or no magazine plug, because both can get a person in trouble. But to even think that screwing the wrong choke into a barrel, and even considering shooting it, is beyond ridiculous.
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Having worked in retail sporting goods for a while, and abused the free coffee pot too excess at a few old time gun shops, there is very little that will truly shock me about guns and gun owners…. Heck spend time talking with an auto mechanic and get the same take!
A disproportionate number of people couldn’t find their own butt hole using both hands a mirror and written instructions.
Now you know why we are in the political crucible we are currently in.
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10-11-2024, 09:55 AM
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they obviously got the choke in there, the big question is will they be able to get it out after a morning shoot!
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10-11-2024, 10:02 AM
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they obviously got the choke in there, the big question is will they be able to get it out after a morning shoot!
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Or will it come out on it's own, if there isn't enough thread engagement, or if the choke ID is smaller than the bore?
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10-11-2024, 10:11 AM
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Or will it come out on it's own, if there isn't enough thread engagement, or if the choke ID is smaller than the bore?
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I actually saw that at our club a few years back , blew it out the muzzle after halfway through a round of trap!
Not sure if it was not installed properly or if it was in the wrong choke with slightly different thread pitch or diameter, but I suspect it was the wrong one.
Buddy left before I could get a look at the gun, and I have not seen him back since.
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10-11-2024, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by catnthehat
I actually saw that at our club a few years back , blew it out the muzzle after halfway through a round of trap!
Not sure if it was not installed properly or if it was in the wrong choke with slightly different thread pitch or diameter, but I suspect it was the wrong one.
Buddy left before I could get a look at the gun, and I have not seen him back since.
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People usually leave quick, when they realize that they screwed up badly. A friend came over to my bench, and asked me to look at the end bench, the guy's gun sounded funny, and his empty cases all had mangled necks. The guy was complaining about not hitting the target at all. I asked him if it was a new load for his 7mmremmag, and he looked puzzled, and said it was a 300winmag. He had fired 7 rounds of 7mmremmag in his 300win mag. He was packed up and gone in record time.
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There was a post with a 7RM last nite, separating necks, split necks, on once fired, came apart in the resizer after second shot, the ID on his necks were .304, OD on a same brass as, loaded factory rd I happened to have handy was .312.
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There was a post with a 7RM last nite, separating necks, split necks, on once fired, came apart in the resizer after second shot, the ID on his necks were .304, OD on a same brass as, loaded factory rd I happened to have handy was .312.
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So .020" expansion on firing, of course necks were splitting, after being stretched that much.
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With screw in chokes the barrel has a very small bevel seat that the leading edge of the choke seats into , if one fires without being screwed all the way in you can tear the choke right out of the barrel. I’ve seen it a few times now
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10-12-2024, 06:25 PM
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Good one today on Alberta Hunting Addicts. Person posting it's a good thing they didn't see a moose, because the bolt was hitting the scope and wouldn't cycle. So they obviously never sighted the gun in, after mounting the scope.
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10-12-2024, 06:28 PM
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Wow! unreal!
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
Good one today on Alberta Hunting Addicts. Person posting it's a good thing they didn't see a moose, because the bolt was hitting the scope and wouldn't cycle. So they obviously never sighted the gun in, after mounting the scope.
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I don't get how he could even take a gun hunting with no choke, who stores their shotgun with no choke in the barrel? That is even worse than going hunting with no magazine plug in place. I would never store a shotgun with no choke, or no magazine plug, because both can get a person in trouble. But to even think that screwing the wrong choke into a barrel, and even considering shooting it, is beyond ridiculous.
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same guy that stores the bolt for his gun somewhere 'safe' and then advertises for a replacement or sells a gun with no bolt
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10-12-2024, 07:56 PM
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same guy that stores the bolt for his gun somewhere 'safe' and then advertises for a replacement or sells a gun with no bolt
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I have never seen the point of that either, or storing your only magazine separately, and then trying to find a rare and expensive magazine, when it goes missing.
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No one is allowed to fail cuz that would be shaming etc,etc etc ....stoopid games = stoopid prizes
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10-12-2024, 09:18 PM
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I wouldn’t have put a choke in my barrel unless I knew it was listed as compatible.
I don’t have any shotgun choke stories.
On a duck hunt I was in the middle. I let some go by on the left so buddy had some action. Then he stops shooting. I let a few more go and still nothing. Then I just shoot everything. When I’m done I ask what’s up and his stock came loose. Sometimes you just shut it down.
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
I have seen some strange questions before, but today is the best that I have seen. A guy posted on Facebook Waterfowl Addicts that his buddy took a shot gun with no choke hunting this morning. They managed to thread one of the other guy's chokes into the gun, but it is sitting about 1/2" recessed into the barrel. Now they are asking if it is okay to shoot the gun on the hunt this morning.
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I would bet the choke would most likely come flying out the end of the barrel, and then there is the lesser chance that the choke becomes permanent in the barrel. I would guess there is zero chance that it'll all work out fine.
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
I have seen some strange questions before, but today is the best that I have seen. A guy posted on Facebook Waterfowl Addicts that his buddy took a shot gun with no choke hunting this morning. They managed to thread one of the other guy's chokes into the gun, but it is sitting about 1/2" recessed into the barrel. Now they are asking if it is okay to shoot the gun on the hunt this morning.
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My opinion: I don’t think either of those clowns is smart enough to be in possession of a shogun.
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Heard a story once about a guy at a gun counter complaining about his gun. He bought a weatherby rifle chambered in 270 win. Purchased ammo in .270 weatherby... apparently that first shot was a bit of a surprise when he pulled the trigger.
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Heard a story once about a guy at a gun counter complaining about his gun. He bought a weatherby rifle chambered in 270 win. Purchased ammo in .270 weatherby... apparently that first shot was a bit of a surprise when he pulled the trigger.
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Good story but I think it may have been the other way round. My memory isn't perfect either.
A 270 Win can be shot out of a 270 Bee, I doubt most could tell the difference, except the case would look a LOT different after firing it. A 270 Bee cartridge would not fit in a 270 Win Chamber. Case head, the Belt and the shoulder diameter make them too large to chamber.
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Good story but I think it may have been the other way round. My memory isn't perfect either.
A 270 Win can be shot out of a 270 Bee, I doubt most could tell the difference, except the case would look a LOT different after firing it. A 270 Bee cartridge would not fit in a 270 Win Chamber. Case head, the Belt and the shoulder diameter make them too large to chamber.
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Exactly, impossible to chamber 270wby in 270win rifle. The most common thing that I see is people shooting 300win mag in a 300wby rifle.
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Had a buddy buy a stamped 7mm rem mag rifle from an estate....it was a 7stw. Wrecked the brass lol now he hand loads for 7stw.
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So reading this it's crazy to think that these hunters are out in the field hunting. It makes me wonder how effective making hunters having PAL'S to carry a gun while hunting legally. Seems kinda fishy if these guys are able to hunt without any knowledge of guns or calibers and makes me question how these guys actually passed there courses. Anyways happy hunting and obviously keep safe and rock some orange this year!!!
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10-15-2024, 01:49 PM
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Had a buddy buy a stamped 7mm rem mag rifle from an estate....it was a 7stw. Wrecked the brass lol now he hand loads for 7stw.
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Rechambered, but not restamped.
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