The 160 grain factory load chronied on average 2230 fps out of my 20" 336 Marlin .30-.30. It grouped badly at 2 - 2.5". Also those rubbery tipped bullets distort if left in the tubular magazine for the duration of the day. I have yet to find a factory .30-.30 load that shoots better than the handload of IMR 3031 and Speer 170 grain bullet I shoot. The hype didn't measure up for me....
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An awful lot of big game was killed with the .30-06 including the big bears before everyone became affluent enough to own a rifle for every species of game they might hunt.
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