Unapologetically Conservative

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Go Danielle go! Dippers are crying in their soy based beverages this morning.

https://calgarysun.com/opinion/colum...and-loudmouths

Freedom and individual accountability triumph over communism.

[BuckCuller]

Originally Posted by I’d rather be outdoors

Go Danielle go! Dippers are crying in their soy based beverages this morning.

https://calgarysun.com/opinion/colum...and-loudmouths

Freedom and individual accountability triumph over communism.

LOL I despise soy.

[Grizzly Adams1]

I'm waiting to hear how Nenshi spins this.

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

I'm waiting to hear how Nenshi spins this.

I'm waiting to hear how the dippers on this forum spin this

[Au revoir, Gopher]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

I'm waiting to hear how Nenshi spins this.

How 'bout "A fringe group of misogynists that do not represent Albertans."

ARG

[BuckCuller]

Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher

How 'bout "A fringe group of misogynists that do not represent Albertans."

ARG

I’m sure we will be called everything that’s outlined in the Woke-ism, socialist handbook.

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

I'm waiting to hear how Nenshi spins this.

Spendshi is probably on the horn with trudud looking for advice. lol

Suspect that he’s proper concerned, so expect more foaming at the mouth garbage spewing, like usual.

[traderal]

What a difference Smith is to previous elitist Kenney. In a caucus meeting before his review Kenney was secretly recorded showing what he thought of his supporters.

Kenney speaks in the recording about the threat he says some of those against him pose to the survival of the party. He echoed language his campaign staff have been using, with one telling CBC News this leadership review is an attempted "hostile takeover of our party by fringe elements."
In the recording, the premier says this isn't a typical leadership review.
At a normal convention, he says, "1,300 hungover [Progressive Conservatives] would wake up at a convention hotel on Saturday morning and they'd grab a coffee and they'd stumble in to cast a ballot in the leadership review. "And 15 or 20 per cent or so — the people that didn't get the appointment, didn't get the funding, or the premier didn't send flowers on their birthday or whatever — they would come and vote against the leader. And then everything was fine. And if that was what I was dealing with, no problems. No problem. Normal internal politics I can handle. I can handle that. There's nothing normal about this."
"The lunatics are trying to take over the asylum. And I'm not going to let them."

I see similarities with Kenney and Nensheesh, elitists that are out of touch with reality, living in their own world of self importance.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

I'm waiting to hear how the dippers on this forum spin this

lol.

[GrandSlam]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

I'm waiting to hear how the dippers on this forum spin this

The usual suspects should be along shortly….

[traderal]

Members of Alberta’s governing United Conservative Party have voted to endorse all 35 of the policy resolutions up for vote on Saturday
Smith noted that the policy resolutions approved by members aren’t guaranteed to become public policy and will be vetted by government staff.
“We have to also talk to stakeholders, we have to see whether things are legally possible, constitutionally possible.”
Around 10 of those resolutions are already, or in the process of becoming, government policy. These include limiting the use of cellphones in schools, championing skilled trades and updating rules around the recall process.
Before voting on the policy resolutions, members heavily voted in favour of a new version of the Alberta Bill of Rights proposed by a group of members from Medicine Hat.
That version goes further than the one introduced by the government on Oct. 28. It lists 21 rights, including: freedom to use sufficient force in self-defence, freedom from excessive taxation, and freedom to demand independent public inquiry into the conduct of legislators, judges, and other government officials.
It also includes references to the concealed carry of firearms and the right to life from conception.
Policies around education were among the most common to be approved by members, including making membership in the Alberta Teachers’ Association optional and guaranteeing freedom of speech for post-secondary students.
Resolutions around transgender policies were also among those passed, including: restricting female spaces/categories (sports, awards, bathrooms) to only biologically-born women, categorizing sex alteration practices as elective cosmetic procedures that are not to be publicly funded, and allowing only male or female markers on government-issued identification.
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Several of the resolutions nodded to theories popular in far-right circles — calling on the Alberta government to “recognize the importance of carbon dioxide to life” and another seeking the protection of Alberta Crown lands from unlawful seizure via the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People.
Other resolutions passed include:
• Eliminating diversity, equity, and inclusion training from within the Alberta public service;
• Creating a bill of parental rights;
• Requiring municipalities to hold a plebiscite vote for proposed land use changes that impact the entire municipality;
• Eliminating retention bonuses for bureaucrats; and
• Holding the Alberta Human Rights Commission accountable for its decisions.
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https://edmontonjournal.com/news/pol...lutions-passed

[DirtShooter]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

I'm waiting to hear how the dippers on this forum spin this

Lmfao

[3blade]

Originally Posted by traderal

Members of Alberta’s governing United Conservative Party have voted to endorse all 35 of the policy resolutions up for vote on Saturday
Smith noted that the policy resolutions approved by members aren’t guaranteed to become public policy and will be vetted by government staff.
“We have to also talk to stakeholders, we have to see whether things are legally possible, constitutionally possible.”
Around 10 of those resolutions are already, or in the process of becoming, government policy. These include limiting the use of cellphones in schools, championing skilled trades and updating rules around the recall process.
Before voting on the policy resolutions, members heavily voted in favour of a new version of the Alberta Bill of Rights proposed by a group of members from Medicine Hat.
That version goes further than the one introduced by the government on Oct. 28. It lists 21 rights, including: freedom to use sufficient force in self-defence, freedom from excessive taxation, and freedom to demand independent public inquiry into the conduct of legislators, judges, and other government officials.
It also includes references to the concealed carry of firearms and the right to life from conception.
Policies around education were among the most common to be approved by members, including making membership in the Alberta Teachers’ Association optional and guaranteeing freedom of speech for post-secondary students.
Resolutions around transgender policies were also among those passed, including: restricting female spaces/categories (sports, awards, bathrooms) to only biologically-born women, categorizing sex alteration practices as elective cosmetic procedures that are not to be publicly funded, and allowing only male or female markers on government-issued identification.
Story continues below
Article content
Several of the resolutions nodded to theories popular in far-right circles — calling on the Alberta government to “recognize the importance of carbon dioxide to life” and another seeking the protection of Alberta Crown lands from unlawful seizure via the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People.
Other resolutions passed include:
• Eliminating diversity, equity, and inclusion training from within the Alberta public service;
• Creating a bill of parental rights;
• Requiring municipalities to hold a plebiscite vote for proposed land use changes that impact the entire municipality;
• Eliminating retention bonuses for bureaucrats; and
• Holding the Alberta Human Rights Commission accountable for its decisions.
•
https://edmontonjournal.com/news/pol...lutions-passed

Love it. Now it’s time to LIVE it, and 91% is a hell of a mandate to start making these very overdue changes immediately!

Majority in the party, majority in the legislature. No excuses.

I’m going to save this list and we will revisit it in 6 months to see what has actually changed beyond words on paper

[roper1]

Originally Posted by 3blade

Love it. Now it’s time to LIVE it, and 91% is a hell of a mandate to start making these very overdue changes immediately!

Majority in the party, majority in the legislature. No excuses.

I’m going to save this list and we will revisit it in 6 months to see what has actually changed beyond words on paper

I think most Conservatives are just commonsense folks, fiscally responsible, somewhat informed of reality.

I wonder about the plebiscite on municipal land use changes, the LPRT is absolute dictatorship.

Danielle needs to implement the promised tax cut, and remember what small government looks like. This isn't it.

[Dynamic]

Originally Posted by 3blade

Love it. Now it’s time to LIVE it, and 91% is a hell of a mandate to start making these very overdue changes immediately!

Majority in the party, majority in the legislature. No excuses.

I’m going to save this list and we will revisit it in 6 months to see what has actually changed beyond words on paper

I think you need to reign back your enthusiasm a bit. It was something between 4-6000 votes with a heavily biased electorate behind closed doors. Yes it was a good outcome for Dani. But a leadership review generally should almost always be a overwhelming majority if your party is somewhat functioning. I put positive political party leadership reviews right up there with Putin winning his elections and a golf card signed by Kim Jong II shooting 38 under par, when speaking in terms of importance in the overall scheme of things in any political landscape.

The policy resolutions are pretty wild. A select few actually might be something. Lots are culture war crap. Others are just vague and mean nothing. And some are just laughably bad. A parental bill of rights?
Recognizing carbon dioxide as essential to life!? That had to of been written in crayon or something there is no way that a serious adult wrote that one. I understand lots of these are not going to go much further than that but it is worrying that is the priorities it seems.

Conservatives used to focus on the nuts and bolts of what they should be doing. Now they care about C02 and its feelings. Or proclaiming they don't like the carbon tax. They should be above that.

[burbotman]

Originally Posted by Dynamic

I think you need to reign back your enthusiasm a bit. It was something between 4-6000 votes with a heavily biased electorate behind closed doors. Yes it was a good outcome for Dani. But a leadership review generally should almost always be a overwhelming majority if your party is somewhat functioning. I put positive political party leadership reviews right up there with Putin winning his elections and a golf card signed by Kim Jong II shooting 38 under par, when speaking in terms of importance in the overall scheme of things in any political landscape.

The policy resolutions are pretty wild. A select few actually might be something. Lots are culture war crap. Others are just vague and mean nothing. And some are just laughably bad. A parental bill of rights?
Recognizing carbon dioxide as essential to life!? That had to of been written in crayon or something there is no way that a serious adult wrote that one. I understand lots of these are not going to go much further than that but it is worrying that is the priorities it seems.

Conservatives used to focus on the nuts and bolts of what they should be doing. Now they care about C02 and its feelings. Or proclaiming they don't like the carbon tax. They should be above that.

Well said. I am a life long conservative voter provincially and federally, will be to my dying days. That said let’s get back to the basics as you say the nuts and bolts. The political divide is ripping this country apart. Common sense conservatism is needed now more than anything

[BuckCuller]

Originally Posted by Dynamic

I think you need to reign back your enthusiasm a bit. It was something between 4-6000 votes with a heavily biased electorate behind closed doors. Yes it was a good outcome for Dani. But a leadership review generally should almost always be a overwhelming majority if your party is somewhat functioning. I put positive political party leadership reviews right up there with Putin winning his elections and a golf card signed by Kim Jong II shooting 38 under par, when speaking in terms of importance in the overall scheme of things in any political landscape.

The policy resolutions are pretty wild. A select few actually might be something. Lots are culture war crap. Others are just vague and mean nothing. And some are just laughably bad. A parental bill of rights?
Recognizing carbon dioxide as essential to life!? That had to of been written in crayon or something there is no way that a serious adult wrote that one. I understand lots of these are not going to go much further than that but it is worrying that is the priorities it seems.

Conservatives used to focus on the nuts and bolts of what they should be doing. Now they care about C02 and its feelings. Or proclaiming they don't like the carbon tax. They should be above that.

So are you saying that carbon dioxide does not help in supporting life on earth?
And you don’t think that protecting children until they are old enough to have a developed brain is not of importance?

[3blade]

Originally Posted by Dynamic

I think you need to reign back your enthusiasm a bit. It was something between 4-6000 votes with a heavily biased electorate behind closed doors. Yes it was a good outcome for Dani. But a leadership review generally should almost always be a overwhelming majority if your party is somewhat functioning. I put positive political party leadership reviews right up there with Putin winning his elections and a golf card signed by Kim Jong II shooting 38 under par, when speaking in terms of importance in the overall scheme of things in any political landscape.

The policy resolutions are pretty wild. A select few actually might be something. Lots are culture war crap. Others are just vague and mean nothing. And some are just laughably bad. A parental bill of rights?
Recognizing carbon dioxide as essential to life!? That had to of been written in crayon or something there is no way that a serious adult wrote that one. I understand lots of these are not going to go much further than that but it is worrying that is the priorities it seems.

Conservatives used to focus on the nuts and bolts of what they should be doing. Now they care about C02 and its feelings. Or proclaiming they don't like the carbon tax. They should be above that.

There was a HEAVY dose of cynicism in my post

Every conservative politician since Klein and Harper has promised the world to the conservative base and failed to deliver. We are still subject to search and seizure by the royal gestapo. They defied the will of parliament and kept the LGR with no repercussions, likewise for the high river gun theft. “Turn off the taps” never turned a thing. We still pay carbon tax. Buffalo declaration. Alberta sovereignty act. Etc etc etc.

Dani had to be cattle prodded into making the school pronoun decision, and only did it because Moe did first. That’s a win…barely.

Long story short, I agree with you. It has all the meaning of a ballot in Russia. I’d be surprised if one more single conservative priority actually makes it off paper and into reality. But don’t worry, they will fight those bad nurses.

[Geraldsh]

What we really need is moderation in all things.

Carbon dioxide is ok but I like a little oxygen too.
The average child brain will develop just fine with average parenting, but there are some who land outside the average curve and need the guidance of medical professionals (not politicians) to achieve an average life style.

[59whiskers]

Originally Posted by 3blade

There was a HEAVY dose of cynicism in my post

Every conservative politician since Klein and Harper has promised the world to the conservative base and failed to deliver. We are still subject to search and seizure by the royal gestapo. They defied the will of parliament and kept the LGR with no repercussions, likewise for the high river gun theft. “Turn off the taps” never turned a thing. We still pay carbon tax. Buffalo declaration. Alberta sovereignty act. Etc etc etc.

Dani had to be cattle prodded into making the school pronoun decision, and only did it because Moe did first. That’s a win…barely.

Long story short, I agree with you. It has all the meaning of a ballot in Russia. I’d be surprised if one more single conservative priority actually makes it off paper and into reality. But don’t worry, they will fight those bad nurses.

Not buying into Danielle allowing sexualization of kids in school and with men dressed up like women being allowed to be exposed to kids in Public Libraries. I voted UPC last time. Tired of Woke politics. Will not vote to sell out our kids to these perverts.

[W921]

Premier Danielle Smith is hands down the best Canadian Politician in the history of Canada. She has exceeded all my expectations of her.
She is actually doing what she talked about doing before she was elected Premier .
Premier Danielle Smith makes me proud of Alberta again. Gives me hope for the future of Alberta.

I can't comprehend the mindset of someone who does not love Danielle Smith unless they just hate freedom and Alberta and if this is the case there are lots of other ruined ,wrecked other provinces that you can move to.

[W921]

Originally Posted by 3blade

There was a HEAVY dose of cynicism in my post

Every conservative politician since Klein and Harper has promised the world to the conservative base and failed to deliver. We are still subject to search and seizure by the royal gestapo. They defied the will of parliament and kept the LGR with no repercussions, likewise for the high river gun theft. “Turn off the taps” never turned a thing. We still pay carbon tax. Buffalo declaration. Alberta sovereignty act. Etc etc etc.

Dani had to be cattle prodded into making the school pronoun decision, and only did it because Moe did first. That’s a win…barely.

Long story short, I agree with you. It has all the meaning of a ballot in Russia. I’d be surprised if one more single conservative priority actually makes it off paper and into reality. But don’t worry, they will fight those bad nurses.

She is about as pro home schooling, pro private, pro money following your child, pro you deciding how your child is educated as she be.
If you don't like Smith you won't like the alternative if they were in power.

[burbotman]

Originally Posted by W921

Premier Danielle Smith is hands down the best Canadian Politician in the history of Canada. She has exceeded all my expectations of her.
She is actually doing what she talked about doing before she was elected Premier .
Premier Danielle Smith makes me proud of Alberta again. Gives me hope for the future of Alberta.

I can't comprehend the mindset of someone who does not love Danielle Smith unless they just hate freedom and Alberta and if this is the case there are lots of other ruined ,wrecked other provinces that you can move to.

So does my conservative vote count less, because I don’t think she is perfect?

[Dynamic]

Originally Posted by BuckCuller

So are you saying that carbon dioxide does not help in supporting life on earth?
And you don’t think that protecting children until they are old enough to have a developed brain is not of importance?

The fact that you and me are arguing about C02 is funny. The UCP debating it is sad. There are people much smart than me, you, and especially some politician that can fill us in on the importance of C02.

And protecting children is the LAST thing I want the UCP to chime in on. Your brain would explode if the NDP in 2015 was voting resolutions on creating a "bill of parental rights". If you truly believe in small government you should not be happy about the government trying to inject themselves in the equation. It is not okay just because it is you team.

[Mydogbark]

The province is taking a survey of people who value the outdoors for its nature strategy and policy. Survey open until Nov. 7.

https://your.alberta.ca/nature-strat...ature-strategy

[W921]

Originally Posted by burbotman

So does my conservative vote count less, because I don’t think she is perfect?

I want ndp and liberals to move away. Not conservatives although I don't know who's leadership you want to go back to?

[mahuna]

Why are we talking about abortion?? Its just there to rally the religious wing nuts like down in the US and push those leaning a little more to the middle away. I have always voted conservative but this nonsense is going too far for me. I thought conservatives were supposed to stay out of peoples lives.

I hope like hell that as mentioned above very little of this makes it any further.

[BuckCuller]

Originally Posted by Dynamic

The fact that you and me are arguing about C02 is funny. The UCP debating it is sad. There are people much smart than me, you, and especially some politician that can fill us in on the importance of C02.

And protecting children is the LAST thing I want the UCP to chime in on. Your brain would explode if the NDP in 2015 was voting resolutions on creating a "bill of parental rights". If you truly believe in small government you should not be happy about the government trying to inject themselves in the equation. It is not okay just because it is you team.

You have no clue.
This C02 scam is why a vehicle and everything else in the west costs so much money. The average Canadian can no longer afford buying a new vehicle, hell there are a lot of people that can’t afford to buy a used vehicle anymore. So yes I will argue with you about it.

I also believe give credit where credit is due. If the NDP created a parental bill of rights I would still commend it, however what you are spewing is simply hypothetical because the NDP would never table such a bill.

Your points carry no water.

[BuckCuller]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

I'm waiting to hear how the dippers on this forum spin this

You definitely called it. 😂

[burbotman]

Originally Posted by W921

I want ndp and liberals to move away. Not conservatives although I don't know who's leadership you want to go back to?

The UCP is what’s best for our province and that’s where my vote will continue to be. That said I am less enthusiastic about the expanding divide in our province and country.