This is What is Wrong With Society

[elkhunter11]

Self entitlement at it's worst. The moron should be charged with assault for throwing hot coffee at the person filming her.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2594564/vi...ot-goes-viral/

[Lefty-Canuck]

Saw that yesterday...disgusting behavior, ultimate show of "entitlement"

LC

[whiteout]

And yet we don't know if it's an proper handicapped spot. The spot is not fully shown and there are very specific requirements that need to be met to designate a spot as handicapped.

There are lots of “handicapped” stalls around that don't meet the criteria. Not to mention all the “green, family, expecting mothers” spots which have no basis in actual law.

[silverdoctor]

People have been parking in handicapp parking for years, it's a reality and unfortunately you're not going to stop it. Note on the window, quick talk - why the camera? More likely it's empty cups - had the cups been full of hot coffee, i'm sure there would have been some screaming.


Take a look at this story out of BC, this is part of what's wrong with our society today. People see a bandwagon and they want to jump on it...

http://cnews.canoe.com/CNEWS/Canada/.../22615314.html

[^v^Tinda wolf^v^]

I'm pretty sure that would be an assault charge on the girls behalf. Recording someone breaking the law is one thing but a vigilante confrontation is a whole other level of over stepping ones felt obligations. I have personally witnessed a person getting KO'd for doing so. It's not the right thing to do but I have no sympathy.

[coppercarbide]

Originally Posted by whiteout

And yet we don't know if it's an proper handicapped spot. The spot is not fully shown and there are very specific requirements that need to be met to designate a spot as handicapped.

There are lots of “handicapped” stalls around that don't meet the criteria. Not to mention all the “green, family, expecting mothers” spots which have no basis in actual law.

Wow. Yes... you seem to certainly understand the entitlement shown in the video.

If a business decides to set aside a spot or two for expectant mothers, you are right it's not a 'legal' spot in the same way as a handicapped spot. However, worrying about the 'technicalities' is rather missing the point.

It's kinda like holding open the door for someone whose hands are full. Sure, you could be a DOUCHEBAG and point out that you don't have to legally hold the door... or you could be a decent human being.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Saw that yesterday...disgusting behavior, ultimate show of "entitlement"

LC

True, woman should have just drove away. And yet I have no sympathy for self-appointed smug self-righteous vigilantes who run around videoing and posting things they don't like. I was walking my dog the other day off leash (oh the horror), with him heeling obediently right at my right leg, his leash in my hand, just refreshing his training. Some guy with no life went off on me, asked snottily if I thought I was better than everyone else. Really? Upsets you that much? Relax dude.

And as for the "This is what's wrong with society" part, not sure you mean people who don't respect handicapped parking, or people running around with cell phone cameras. LOL

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by whiteout

And yet we don't know if it's an proper handicapped spot. The spot is not fully shown and there are very specific requirements that need to be met to designate a spot as handicapped.

There are lots of “handicapped” stalls around that don't meet the criteria. Not to mention all the “green, family, expecting mothers” spots which have no basis in actual law.

When I see the blue square with the yellow wheelchair symbol, I have enough respect to park elsewhere. I don't look up the requirements for handicapped stalls to see if the stall meets every requirement.

I'm pretty sure that would be an assault charge on the girls behalf. Recording someone breaking the law is one thing but a vigilante confrontation is a whole other level of over stepping ones felt obligations. I have personally witnessed a person getting KO'd for doing so. It's not the right thing to do but I have no sympathy.

The person recording did nothing wrong, he recorded in a public place. If the self entitled moron parks elsewhere next time, to avoid future embarrassment, then a purpose was served.

True, woman should have just drove away.

She should have not parked in a handicapped parking stall.

And as for the "This is what's wrong with society" part, not sure you mean people who don't respect handicapped parking, or people running around with cell phone cameras. LOL

If you can't see that parking in a handicapped stall, and then committing assault by throwing your coffee, is the issue, then you are part of the problem.

[gmcmax05]

[QUOTE=elkhunter11;3181227]When I see the blue square with the yellow wheelchair symbol, I have enough respect to park elsewhere. I don't look up the requirements for handicapped stalls to see if the stall meets every requirement.



The person recording did nothing wrong, he recorded in a public place. If the self entitled moron parks elsewhere next time, to avoid future embarrassment, then a purpose was served.



She should have not parked in a handicapped parking stall.



If you can't see that parking in a handicapped stall, and then committing assault by throwing your coffee, is the issue, then you are part of the problem.[/QUOTE]

This X 1000.

[silverdoctor]

So elkhunter, no accountability for the guy with the camera? If you look at his facebook account, he's removed the video due to threats of violence against this woman.

Would she deserve a beating?

Ryan got his 2 minutes of fame...

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

If you can't see that parking in a handicapped stall, and then committing assault by throwing your coffee, is the issue, then you are part of the problem.

It's an issue. It's not the only one.

[Lux604]

there is making a mistake due to not being able to see the ground (snow covered with no signs posted in front to state otherwise, and then there is just blatant disrespect... which is what this woman is a perfect example of.

While standing and videotaping might not have been the best way to handle the situation... with all of the public shaming, I highly doubt she will park in the reserved spots again without thinking twice! Plus it speaks wonder of her character with throwing the coffee!

[gmcmax05]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

It's an issue. It's not the only one.

No it's not, but maybe the bimbo will think twice about parking in a handi-cap spot again!

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

So elkhunter, no accountability for the guy with the camera? If you look at his facebook account, he's removed the video due to threats of violence against this woman.

Would she deserve a beating?

Ryan got his 2 minutes of fame...

Unlike the woman, the guy recording the video did nothing illegal, and is therefore not accountable for anything,

No she doesn't deserve a beating, but she does deserve a ticket and the public shaming that she received. As for the fame, I for one paid no attention to the person doing the recording, the self entitled woman was the one receiving two minutes of fame.

[silverdoctor]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea that she holds sole blame.

She broke a law that deserves a fine.

Idiot puts her on record - she probably knows it's going online - put yourself in that position.

She clearly throws empty coffee cups at him, otherwise he would be screaming while covered in hot coffee. Someone sticks a camera in my face, it may result in more than coffee cups. Video taping in public is not illegal - you want to video me personally, you better ask first.

Idiot sticks the video on the internet causing outrage - knowing full well what it would cause.

Idiot has to take down said video due to threats against the woman. He actually stated that on his facebook.

Now I ask - if anyone had followed up on threats and given this woman a beating - do you think Mr. Favro would face any consequences? Should he face consequences? He made a situation worse, much worse with that damn camera.

[ROA]

Yes this is what's wrong with society.
2 useless idiots fighting over a parking space.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea that she holds sole blame.

She broke a law that deserves a fine.

Idiot puts her on record - she probably knows it's going online - put yourself in that position.

She clearly throws empty coffee cups at him, otherwise he would be screaming while covered in hot coffee. Someone sticks a camera in my face, it may result in more than coffee cups. Video taping in public is not illegal - you want to video me personally, you better ask first.

Idiot sticks the video on the internet causing outrage - knowing full well what it would cause.

Idiot has to take down said video due to threats against the woman. He actually stated that on his facebook.

Now I ask - if anyone had followed up on threats and given this woman a beating - do you think Mr. Favro would face any consequences? Should he face consequences? He made a situation worse, much worse with that damn camera.

I would not be in that position,because I don't park in handicapped stalls. As well, she just aggravated the situation by throwing the drinks. Had she just driven away, the situation would never have gotten to the point that it did. If you look closely at the video, you can clearly see that the cups were not empty. The lids stayed on, so the contents did not spray out, but you can see that at least the clear cup is pretty much full. She just came out of the store, and hasn't had time to drink both drinks, and given that there are two drinks, one is likely for someone else, so she isn't likely taking that person an empty cup.

Now I ask - if anyone had followed up on threats and given this woman a beating - do you think Mr. Favro would face any consequences? Should he face consequences? He made a situation worse, much worse with that damn camera.

He did nothing illegal, so no, he would face no consequences. As to making the situation worse, she could have simply driven away rather than throw the drinks, so she made it what it was.

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

He did nothing illegal, so no, he would face no consequences. As to making the situation worse, she could have simply driven away rather than throw the drinks, so she made it what it was.

So knowingly inciting violence should carry no consequence at all... And what's wrong with society again?

No accountability for your actions!

[Clgy_Dave2.0]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

Video taping in public is not illegal - you want to video me personally, you better ask first.

Why?

You're in a public place, with no expectation of privacy. Anyone can take photos or videos of anyone in a public place. If you don't want to be filmed doing something illegal, disrespectful or embarrassing, don't do something illegal, disrespectful or embarrassing in public.

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by Clgy_Dave2.0

Why?

You're in a public place, with no expectation of privacy. Anyone can take photos or videos of anyone in a public place. If you don't want to be filmed doing something illegal, disrespectful or embarrassing, don't do something illegal, disrespectful or embarrassing in public.

How many people are recorded, stuck online for the vigilante crowd, but yet were innocent of anything... We haven't seen that before have we Dave. People's lives have been ruined for no reason - other than someone's assumptions.

In this case she deserved a ticket, not threats of violence.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

So knowingly inciting violence should carry no consequence at all... And what's wrong with society again?

No accountability for your actions!

He did not knowingly incite violence, he simply recorded someone parking in a handicapped stall and posted it to shame the person.l. If someone chose to respond with violence, then that was totally their decision not his. Blaming him for inciting violence would be like blaming a firearms manufacture because someone used their firearm to shoot someone. Yes they provided the firearm, but someone else chose to use it illegally.

[antlercarver]

If someone does not stand up for what is right then it is the
same as they are condoning it.

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

He did not knowingly incite violence, he simply recorded someone parking in a handicapped stall and posted it to shame the person.l. If someone chose to respond with violence, then that was totally their decision not his. Blaming him for inciting violence would be like blaming a firearms manufacture because someone used their firearm to shoot someone. Yes they provided the firearm, but someone else chose to use it illegally.

Nooooo, he had no idea that sticking that video online would have no repercussions to this woman...

There's no track record of vigilante violence from the internet mob eh? So do you feel the people hiding behind their keyboards threatening violence should have no repercussions either?

[Elkaholic338]

While it can be argued that wrong was committed on both sides of the camera, I think that if the woman in the video had simply said, "O I'm sorry, I didn't realize that it was a handicapped stall, I'll be more careful next time" we would have never seen this posted anywhere, as it was her reaction to being called out that caused this whole thing to come out.
So yes, maybe he should not have been harassing, but if she had been polite and courteous, and then driven away, this would have gone nowhere. It is directly related to her actions and choices in this situation that has caused this video to go viral.

[nelsonob1]

Woman gets caught parking in disabled parking spot, vigilante guy is overly smug and confrontational so she throws her drink at him.

Probably not the end of society.

[Sledhead71]

This new public shaming is just cyber bullying for the masses...

[HighlandHeart]

She is a jerk for parking in the handicapped spot and even more of a jerk for throwing cups at him. He is a jerk for being whiney and passive aggressive about it, egging her on while filming her. People are so quick to jump on the fake outrage bus and bust out the sarcasm, passive aggression, and other playground tactics to go right for the jugular instead of being polite and treating strangers the way they want to be treated. He could have just asked her if she was handicapped and if she knew she was parked in a handicapped spot, but he knew that wouldn't upset her and give him a chance to go viral and be a noble social justice warrior.

[bobtodrick]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea that she holds sole blame.

She broke a law that deserves a fine.

Idiot puts her on record - she probably knows it's going online - put yourself in that position.

She clearly throws empty coffee cups at him, otherwise he would be screaming while covered in hot coffee. Someone sticks a camera in my face, it may result in more than coffee cups. Video taping in public is not illegal - you want to video me personally, you better ask first.

Idiot sticks the video on the internet causing outrage - knowing full well what it would cause.

Idiot has to take down said video due to threats against the woman. He actually stated that on his facebook.

Now I ask - if anyone had followed up on threats and given this woman a beating - do you think Mr. Favro would face any consequences? Should he face consequences? He made a situation worse, much worse with that damn camera.

Mr. Favro holds no blame.
IF THE BIMBO HADN'T HAVE PARKED WHERE SHE WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE NONE OF THIS WOULD BE IN THE NEWS.
I'm handicapped...due to a auto racing accident years ago I walk with a cane, and any distance is tiring.
Yet when I go to Safeway, if there is only one handicapped space...or it's a business with only one space I leave it...I can get bye, the person in the wheelchair needs it far more than I.
With this in mind I have no problem confronting the JAKWADS I see parking in a handicapped stall and then jumping out of their vehicle like their prepared to run a 100yds sprint.
And I have had no problem videoing them and their license plate and forwarding it to the police (whom do follow up).
The opening title of this thread says it all.

[waterninja]

Originally Posted by ROA

Yes this is what's wrong with society.
2 useless idiots fighting over a parking space.

X2,,,,, Plus the fact that it was at a Tim Hortans. Rarely go into a Tim Hortans, but when I do, I see some strange stressed out people. Almost got into a physical altercation with a fellow in line because I bought the last Stanley Cup donut, and he wanted it. Talk about entitled!
Yep, thats whats wrong with society.

TIC

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by bobtodrick

And I have had no problem videoing them and their license plate and forwarding it to the police (whom do follow up).

Right there, that's all that should have happened.

But he chose to upload the video for the internet mob. That's is something that the police are forever telling people NOT TO DO!!! Let the police do their job.