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Old 08-21-2014, 08:54 PM
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I imagine this question probably has been covered before but I'm wondering what size cable you guys like for coyotes and wolves. Im thinking of putting an order in to the snareshop and need to know if one size cable will work nicely for both animals. I was thinking of 3/32 7x7 with cam lock and breakaway. i've also heard that 5/64 1x19 doesn't get chewed off as much. what do you guys like and why? this will be my first season snaring and i would appreciate all the tips i can get. Thanks!!
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Old 08-21-2014, 09:07 PM
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I go with the 5/64 1x19. 8 ft long Camlock with teeth.
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Old 08-21-2014, 09:39 PM
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do you recommend kill springs? i'd like to keep the set as simple and cheap as possible but still be as effective as possible
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Old 08-21-2014, 10:18 PM
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do you recommend kill springs? i'd like to keep the set as simple and cheap as possible but still be as effective as possible
Yes, I use a 50# coil kill spring on every coyote and wolf snare. Kill springs are not needed on cat snares.
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Old 08-21-2014, 10:43 PM
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I just bought 10 dozen "Canadian Dispatch" snares with trigger in 5/64" from there.
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Old 08-21-2014, 11:05 PM
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I just bought 10 dozen "Canadian Dispatch" snares with trigger in 5/64" from there.
I ordered 10 dozen 3/32 1x19 10 feet long with toothed cam locks kill spring with trigger 750lb bad for $3.75 each shipping included in the price
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I just bought 10 dozen "Canadian Dispatch" snares with trigger in 5/64" from there.
I ordered 10 dozen 3/32 1x19 10 feet long with toothed cam locks kill spring with trigger 750lb bad for $3.75 each shipping included in the price
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Old 08-21-2014, 11:21 PM
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I ordered 10 dozen 3/32 1x19 10 feet long with toothed cam locks kill spring with trigger 750lb bad for $3.75 each shipping included in the price
Are those for your wolves? I would think they would be perfect for that as well as yotes
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Old 08-21-2014, 11:32 PM
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What's the advantage to having a longer, 10 ft snare, as opposed to a shorter one with an extension?
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Not much but I found extensions a pain in the butt and at the snareshop they actually gave me some added length for free so why not. Got 2 extra feet out of the deal
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Old 08-22-2014, 12:32 AM
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My thinking is that a snare is a one time use item while an extension with a swivel could be re-used numerous times. Wouldn't going with a shorter snare with an extension cost less in the long run?

I'm just snaring coyote/fox so snaring wolves might be a whole different ballgame and there's a legitimate reason, other than the noose size, that I don't know about for wanting a longer snare.
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Old 08-22-2014, 09:23 AM
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My thinking is that a snare is a one time use item while an extension with a swivel could be re-used numerous times. Wouldn't going with a shorter snare with an extension cost less in the long run?

I'm just snaring coyote/fox so snaring wolves might be a whole different ballgame and there's a legitimate reason, other than the noose size, that I don't know about for wanting a longer snare.
I run 5/64 1x19 5 foot replacement snares on a 7 foot extension with swivel,12 foot of running room to hit the end and lock in place and trigger the spring,one yote stretched out,this is what works for me IMO,and my extension is 3/32 holds up pretty good,after catch cut snare off and replace with new,ready to go.
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I run 5/64 1x19 5 foot replacement snares on a 7 foot extension with swivel,12 foot of running room to hit the end and lock in place and trigger the spring,one yote stretched out,this is what works for me IMO,and my extension is 3/32 holds up pretty good,after catch cut snare off and replace with new,ready to go.
I'm running the same setup as you Peter , great minds think alike ? LOL .. got mine from DAKOTALINE SNARES .
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Old 08-22-2014, 10:26 AM
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I run 5/64 1x19 5 foot replacement snares on a 7 foot extension with swivel,12 foot of running room to hit the end and lock in place and trigger the spring,one yote stretched out,this is what works for me IMO,and my extension is 3/32 holds up pretty good,after catch cut snare off and replace with new,ready to go.
I am also the same set up only thing is I am using 1/16 1x19 cable locks spring trigger system with 3/32 ext and swivel. Same length. I am down on the prairies it seem to work for me. I have caught yotes in 3/32 snares but I was setting for wolf.
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Old 08-22-2014, 10:43 AM
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I'm running the same setup as you Peter , great minds think alike ? LOL .. got mine from DAKOTALINE SNARES .
You bet Cam,i make all my own snares,have a swag I mount in my vice and away I go,doesn't take no time at all to put up a bunch,and I enjoy the whole aspect of making my own and seeing them catching fur,I have purchased from them as well,good prices,cheers Peter.
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Old 08-22-2014, 10:49 AM
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I am also the same set up only thing is I am using 1/16 1x19 cable locks spring trigger system with 3/32 ext and swivel. Same length. I am down on the prairies it seem to work for me. I have caught yotes in 3/32 snares but I was setting for wolf.
Yep got one last year in 3/32 in fence set,he must of been cruising got him around waist big dog too,stretched out laying on belly when I got there,hardly any struggle,gotta make some stakes for some grassy trails I have in my area as well,lot of flat area where I am as well.
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Old 08-22-2014, 11:08 AM
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do you guys ever use 1/16 for wolves? seems like that would be a bit small. i was thinking 5/64 1x19 would work well for both wolves and yotes. just trying to keep it simple and buy one size wire.
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do you guys ever use 1/16 for wolves? seems like that would be a bit small. i was thinking 5/64 1x19 would work well for both wolves and yotes. just trying to keep it simple and buy one size wire.
5/64 with a kill spring will work for wolves 1/16 is to light that being said I would use 3/32 1x 19 with a kill spring for wolves
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Old 08-22-2014, 12:28 PM
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Just for info, the Trappers manual recommends the following sized cable:

Wolf - 3/32"
Coyote - 5/64" or 3/32"
Fox, Lynx, Bobcat - 1/16"

I was told that the 5/64" cable would hold a better loop so I went that route.

This thread popped up at the right time! I'm headed to Halford's this afternoon to pick up cable, etc to make my extensions. Going with 3/32" cable for them.
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I was told that the 5/64" cable would hold a better loop so I went that route.
It's not the size of cable, it's the 1X19 type rather than 7X7 that holds the better loop, especially for large loops.
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Old 08-22-2014, 02:00 PM
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Watches the Paul trepus wolf snaring video I thought he used 1/16th
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It's not the size of cable, it's the 1X19 type rather than 7X7 that holds the better loop, especially for large loops.
x2 I found the same 1x19 holds better loop then 7x7 IMO
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thanks for all the info!! what kind of lock do you guys prefer?
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thanks for all the info!! what kind of lock do you guys prefer?
I prefer micro locks as they have no moving parts to freeze up. The Amberg and toothed Cam locks are also very effective locks.
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Old 08-22-2014, 11:03 PM
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I like Micro but never used them. I started with toothed Camlocks and wanted to keep them all the same. They work real well and are black coloured to hide easier as well.
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Old 08-23-2014, 01:23 AM
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Marty Senneker now has a larger version of his kill spring out,would be awesome on either yote or wolf snares,just thought I would mention it,cheers Peter
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thanks peter! i;ve heard nothing but good things about marty's snare parts and he definitely has the catch numbers to prove it.

micro locks do seem like a simpler way to lock a snare. i'll have to try them out
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