Landowner Hunting Permission

[RussAlexander21]

Apologies if this has already been answered on here. I tried getting an answer on Google but more generic land permission answers are all I could find…

Does anyone know if land owners are legally able give their “land owner” rights to individuals with permission to hunt on their property? For example, if a farmer wants a cougar off their property but does not want to hunt himself, is he able to let a hunter on his land outside of the general season to hunt that cougar? Or is it only the person whose name is literally on the paperwork for owning that property that is legally allowed to hunt out of season for cougar.

Thank you in advance to anyone who points me in the right direction
Russ

[fatboyz]

Right from the regulations, owner or occupant only.
Cougar
Any person who is the owner or occupant of privately owned land may at any time of year, hunt (but not trap) cougar on such lands without a licence. Hunting with dogs is prohibited under this authority. Under this authority, registration is required within one week of the kill by bringing the skin and skull (or intact carcass) to a Fish and Wildlife office. A premolar tooth will be retained for aging.

[W921]

So with bears you can hunt with the ranchers permission. Cougars I know of a guy doing the same. Fish cops were involved after he shot the cougar. I thought everything was legit. My friend had 3 weaned I'm guessing young cats living in his yard. Not kittens but not monster big ones either. You would see the cats through the day. Cats had no fear. They have yard full of barn cats,horses,cows.out buildings, trees,a dog,etc. Terrible walking at night calving time. Usually they didn't see a cougar until walking back to house and of course cougar would be by one of the bridges so hard to go around cat. Cell phones don't work there either unless walk to top of one of the hills

[RussAlexander21]

Originally Posted by fatboyz

Right from the regulations, owner or occupant only.
Cougar
Any person who is the owner or occupant of privately owned land may at any time of year, hunt (but not trap) cougar on such lands without a licence. Hunting with dogs is prohibited under this authority. Under this authority, registration is required within one week of the kill by bringing the skin and skull (or intact carcass) to a Fish and Wildlife office. A premolar tooth will be retained for aging.

Thanks for sharing this, I did read this also, I was curious if it was also written somewhere else that those rights could be given to someone with permissions. In an Act or something like that. Doesn’t seem to be the case however.

Thanks again!
Russ

[RussAlexander21]

Originally Posted by W921

So with bears you can hunt with the ranchers permission. Cougars I know of a guy doing the same. Fish cops were involved after he shot the cougar. I thought everything was legit. My friend had 3 weaned I'm guessing young cats living in his yard. Not kittens but not monster big ones either. You would see the cats through the day. Cats had no fear. They have yard full of barn cats,horses,cows.out buildings, trees,a dog,etc. Terrible walking at night calving time. Usually they didn't see a cougar until walking back to house and of course cougar would be by one of the bridges so hard to go around cat. Cell phones don't work there either unless walk to top of one of the hills

Thanks for sharing! Definitely a problem I wouldn’t want to have… we will probably just wait to Dec 1st for the general season to open up to be safe

Thanks again,
Russ

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by RussAlexander21

Thanks for sharing! Definitely a problem I wouldn’t want to have… we will probably just wait to Dec 1st for the general season to open up to be safe

Thanks again,
Russ

Good grief. What do you mean, “will probably wait just to be safe”? It isn’t legal. End of story.

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

Good grief. What do you mean, “will probably wait just to be safe”? It isn’t legal. End of story.

You have to say this is an example of legally splitting hairs, a problem animal is a problem animal, no matter who deals with it.

[W921]

Originally Posted by RussAlexander21

Thanks for sharing! Definitely a problem I wouldn’t want to have… we will probably just wait to Dec 1st for the general season to open up to be safe

Thanks again,
Russ

Call fish cops. I'm not so sure you can't hunt with owners written permission if he has livestock present. For bears u can and I'm pretty sure u can for cougars. My friend did it and everything reported to fish cops. I think fish cops took the cougar. I don't think you are allowed to keep trophy. What I'm talking about was about 5 years ago and maybe I'm not remembering everything quite right. My friend who had the cougars wasn't a hunter or shooter type. That's why they got neighbour to shoot it

[RussAlexander21]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

Good grief. What do you mean, “will probably wait just to be safe”? It isn’t legal. End of story.

Thanks for the input Pathfinder, I have a habit of typing “probably” “might” “should” etc. I didn’t meant to imply we are debating waiting until Dec 1. We are definitely going to wait until Dec 1st.

Thanks again
Russ

[Dean2]

So what happened to the vaunted "Registered Problem Wildlife Hunters" program that got all the air a couple of months back.

Sarcasm aside, there are programs designed to deal with these issues. Some of the advice you are getting here is correct, but only to a certain extent. Talk to the experts who should know how to guide you, because like so much internet advice, it ranges from plain wrong to incomplete.

Apply for a Damage Control Permit. They allow the use of non-owners to carry out the work.

https://www.alberta.ca/wildlife-damage-control-programs

https://www.alberta.ca/damage-contro...es-and-permits

[RussAlexander21]

Originally Posted by Dean2

So what happened to the vaunted "Registered Problem Wildlife Hunters" program that got all the air a couple of months back.

Sarcasm aside, there are programs designed to deal with these issues. Some of the advice you are getting here is correct, but only to a certain extent. Talk to the experts who should know how to guide you, because like so much internet advice, it ranges from plain wrong to incomplete.

Apply for a Damage Control Permit. They allow the use of non-owners to carry out the work.

https://www.alberta.ca/wildlife-damage-control-programs

https://www.alberta.ca/damage-contro...es-and-permits

Thank you very much for sharing! I’m going to do some reading