Gun Registry Super Thread (please thank your Liberal/NDP friends)

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And some commentary on the UN Arms Trade Treaty, interesting perspective, and yes, the Libs signed us on to it;

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedbrom.../#166390d61a7a

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Two very interesting perspectives on gun violence and the questions of what can we do about it. The video statement is very captivating and does offer a very practical position on the subject. The blog post is a presentation of the dilemma and the dialogue going on today, that is pretty well presented.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzur...ature=youtu.be

https://samharris.org/the-riddle-of-...ZrSUDvkd94N6QU

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Well worth a listen and a share

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrRAO_vG_K4

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Wondered if anyone had done any sort of study on this over the years, NFA found this one;

https://www.iza.org/publications/dp/...xNLjFEn3XB-i5E

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So, Ralph deferred the UN marking system---- to create his own, so the RCMP can trace the owner of a gun, due to come into effect along with the UN system now, C71 won't be a registry, but, this sure smacks of one;

http://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2018/2...ozN-rx70BFV5S0

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Glen Motz on Bill Blair and his "mandate";

https://twitter.com/glenmotz/status/...I5fTMOlU404iHs

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Here's the current status on C71, looks like it will be next year before it becomes law.

https://www.parl.ca/LegisInfo/BillDe...5gh_kW-GvIhFAo

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And of course the gov't won't release this info, might cause a stir. Dennis R Young is at it again, keep on trying Dennis, it is worth it;

https://dennisryoung.ca/2018/12/07/g...YcPnpmuWXKnOdg

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And they really are thinking about central storage for handguns;

https://thegunblog.ca/2018/12/07/can...oEcq-uHJrap-LQ


Quebecers seem to be rebelling against the registry;

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/p...7_article_POS1

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Thanks for keeping this thread alive. All very interesting info.

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RCMP's commissioner's Firearms report for 2017 has been released. Be nice if some of the reasons for some of these items were expounded a bit. Like, how many licences were suspended due to a divorce vs a criminal conviction in their revocations? Things like that could shed some light on the numbers.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/2017-co...nZbk_FZMyXUvF0

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This one mildly surprised me, Sen Pamela Wallin, a well known ex-media personality, calling foul on the gov't over C71. Reasonably impressed by her attitude.

https://wadenanews.ca/legislation-2/...t-on-firearms/

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Believe I posted the AMA report or another article with a link to it, referred to in this article, a month or two ago, but, this strikes me as interesting how a anti-gun biased study can turn around to bite them, also the bit that the politicians are not even using the info that they requested to back themselves, just the flawed utopian notion that what they are thinking and saying is actually going to do some good. Tell a lie enough times and it becomes the truth.

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/...QOIXhEtVf8WQ-8

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You'll have to hit the 'ol translate button on this, but it strikes me as positively scary as to what is going on in Europe, no idea what REACH is, but;

https://www.pulverdampf.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=38594

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Ralph's new marking system along with the UN marking system and C71 is being seen for what it is---a "non-government owned registry". They are bound and determined to get a registry one way or the other;

https://thestarphoenix.com/news/loca...SYIeKrNywgnTNU

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From what appears to be a Quebec hunting mag editor? Sentier Chasse-Pêche
Just a paste and copy off FB, but, he makes a point and explains what is going on in Quebec. I agree with him, and hope the gun owners do not back down. Struck me as a bit of an ironic plea, but, very valid;

Firearms Registers: share to get heard!
Are you in agreement with this text? If yes, we strongly encourage you to share it and identify (tag) François Legault, Prime Minister of Quebec, so that the message is well known to the new government.

Here is the editorial of the December edition of the hunting trail magazine written by the editor-in-Chief, Louis Turbide:

Quebec firearms owners deserve to be treated like other Canadians

While the deadline for registering its firearms is coming to an end, it is important to admit that Quebec firearms owners continue to sulk at the end of January 2018 by the liberals. Thus, when writing this editorial, more than 90 per cent of firearms had not yet been registered. A real fiasco that the caquiste government has inherited and for which it will have to find a solution very quickly
In my memory, never a law passed to the National Assembly has been as controversial as currently in Quebec, to the point of coming to see the very vast majority of those concerned seriously think about challenging the law. But why? Mainly because Quebec's shoulder arms owners find it absurd to be treated differently from other citizens of the rest of Canada. I hope our new prime minister of Quebec François Legault is aware that he has a hot potato in his hands and that the first months of the reign reign may be quite difficult to manage if hundreds of thousands of firearms owners decide Challenge the law.
This is where we have come, and on the ground I do not see this movement of dissent losing force. Mr. Legault, are you going to start a witch hunt across Quebec province to try to count all the weapons legally acquired by your citizens? It would be a political suicide to act like this In the region, the liberal party has been removed from the electoral card, and the record of the firearms registration system is not foreign to these results. Don't make the same mistake as your predecessor who was a denial specialist.
Mr Legault, in the last few years you have screamed high and strong that if you became prime minister you would clean up, and that by the very fact you would be wasting the waste If this system was so important to ensure the security of citizens of a Canadian province, do you seriously think that only Quebec would have legislation on this? Of course not! Do you seriously think that if the firearms owners were convinced that this system could diminish in any way the violent crimes perpetrated with shoulder weapons, they would oppose it? Of course not!
Prime Minister, do you realize that 9 out of 10 provinces trust the control measures put in place with the Canadian firearms possession and acquisition permit to ensure the security of their citizens with regard to the weapon of Shoulder? Has there been a considerable increase in crimes committed with a shoulder weapon in other Canadian provinces since the Canadian firearms register has been abolished? Not at all! Then why are we trying to take on honest citizens who have legally acquired their firearms, while street gangs are making the law with weapons illegally acquired illegally? I don't understand.
Mr. Legault, in Canada doesn't own a shoulder weapon that wants. Quebec firearms owners have bent on all mandatory administrative measures to acquire or possess their firearms, as they have understood that this control structure is necessary and effective, which is not at all the case of UST. On behalf of the hundreds of thousands of Quebec firearms owners who feel injured, I ask you to put the axe in this useless system. End the waste of public funds and allow the owners of Quebec firearms to be treated on the same footing as those of other provinces.

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So, the OPP launched a big investigation and it resulted in a series of raids, that netted a couple of guys that were manufacturing untraceable handguns, they say as many as 120. They were apparently assembling them from off the shelf parts that are legally available. It helps disprove that legal owners are at fault, but, does open another can of worms, with what is available off the shelf to build them with.

https://www.chch.com/two-hamilton-me...tion/?fbclid=I

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Ed Burlew is a pretty well known firearms lawyer, also involved with the CSSA, do believe he is a bit torqued with the Liberals;

https://thegunblog.ca/2018/12/11/ed-...ii9-6iq_zgXEf4

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Looks like the RCMP brought this upon themselves for the most part, but, I wonder if any of Ralph's 327mill will be given to them to fix this?

https://www.hilltimes.com/2018/12/12...ZqWCWwurGrIteg

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C71 is not a done deal yet, keep bothering the Senators;

http://www.parl.ca/LegisInfo/BillDet...jHToYlBxButJLM

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Don't give up all hope yet, there are people in Ottawa who understand what the Libs are doing, this one is a Senator---he gets it;

http://www.donplett.ca/my-work/speec...kywIvBFea5lgA0

Parliament is done til January now, so I doubt there will be a lot of new stuff in the next while.

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Was going to put this one up the other day, lost it, found it again.
Johns Hopkins study of the effect of California's background checks on firearms related deaths.

https://fee.org/articles/california-...s-study-finds/

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Pretty quiet except for a lot of older stuff that has been circulated and recirculated, but, this one is worth putting up again, from Sen Don Plett , off his website. Other than that, Quebec doesn't know quite what to do with the fact that something like only 2% of the gun owners have complied with the registry so far, NFA encouraged them to all wait till the last minute, but, do it to keep legal. CBC crucified them for that and the Poly group wants them all fined for non- compliance. Heidi Rathjen is on the warpath.

http://www.donplett.ca/my-work/artic...H33cS9hym6kLBQ

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That’s in interesting read. I would like to see that mailed to every household in Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal.

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Makes a person wonder if this will get resolved before the election occurs, the RCMP don't want to release the FRT's on restricted stuff, alone all the other stuff they have collected on firearms;

https://firearmrights.ca/en/goodale-...nvchwe5CvWZod4

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And here is a sample of Wendy and her cohorts efforts at the moment, no idea where they are targeting their campaign, wonder where they mailed this stuff to;

https://thegunblog.ca/2019/01/08/coa...LJWXJ_yT5hHffw

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Appears the Conservatives are on the road with town halls again, Vernon and Kelowna this time;

https://infotel.ca/newsitem/vernon-m...Fgey8.facebook

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And Coquitlam is having a Conservative Town Hall as well.

At the Port Coquitlam & District Hunting & Fishing Club

Wed, Jan 16th 6;30 PM

Apparently Bob Zimmer, Michelle Rempel and Glen Motz wlll be there.

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And the Liberals are refusing to release the RCMP's FRT's and are now going to have to go to court over it

https://mailchi.mp/conservative.ca/s...OVzCV_pD-7hJGg

https://firearmrights.ca/en/goodale-...Yzc9S4L1-RiClg

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I'd heard about this a couple of weeks ago, but, my instincts were right on it, it isn't public.
https://firearmrights.ca/en/minister...0hhRp3V1Ah-kGE