Today's the day. US election on now

[Map Maker]

Originally Posted by KGB

The US ambassador to Canada already mentioned that Trump does not consider Canada an economic threat, so hopefully his tariffs will not apply to us.

If trump shows favouritism to us then other countries will expect favouritism well.
We went thru all this 8 years ago.
Trump wants rewrite everything to make USA the greatest country on its own.
NAFTA was already rewritten.
Softwood stocks prove this by dropping today.
Not saying it’s good or bad but we have to protect ourselves as well.

[gunluvr]

Originally Posted by Sporty

We’re already feeling the impact of Trudeau’s time in office—should we really have to deal with a U.S. president who puts personal interests above what’s best for diplomatic relations? With a Trump return, there’s a good chance his approach to Canada will be shaped more by his own agenda than by any real interest in a solid partnership. His track record suggests we could see more friction in trade, economic cooperation, and diplomacy, all based on his personal priorities rather than what actually benefits both countries.

Wishing harm on Canada and Canadians just because of a
personal dislike for Trudeau seems pretty unpatriotic. It’s one thing to disagree with a leader, but wanting to see the country suffer over political differences is something else entirely. We should be focused on what’s best for our nation, not letting personal grudges dictate our future.

Trump has so much damage to repair domestically Canada is the last thing he's thinking about. When he gets around to trade negotiations, if Turdo is still around he'll likely wait until a more sane and agreeable administration is in place. Then, I think there will be more opportunity for mutual accomodations.
With the Turd and his woke agenda, he'll mostly ignore us.
Can't blame him. He has no grudges with Canadians or with Pollievre. Trudeau is a waste of his time, and ours.

[Sporty]

Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher

Republican protectionist policies won't benefit Canada. How would Democrat protectionist policies benefit Canada?


ARG

I agree regarding the Democrats, but there's a key difference: Trump often responds based on personal grievances rather than policy, and he doesn't seem to hold the same mutual respect for Canada as other US leaders, past and present.

Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman

I never implied that you were a socialist. I just asked you what our options are.

No, you did not. My comment was more general, as it feels like whenever someone offers a slightly different perspective from the group here, they're immediately labeled as a socialist or leftist.

I don't know what our options are either, I simply find it odd that there is such a response by so many Canadians who claim to be patriotic yet will cheer on someone who has shown an open disregard to the mutually respectful relationship shared between our two countries.

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Read my post, Trump isn't pushing an anti oil agenda, that is good for our oil industry, since we sell oil to the USA. Trump isn't anti industry, again good for Canada, since we supply resources. Trump isn't a WEF puppet, again good for Canada. Trump isn't pushing the green agenda, again good for Canada.

While he may not be anti-industry or anti-oil, his stance on raising tariffs on Canadian industries outside of oil ends up hurting all Canadians collectively.

If I lived in the U.S., even though I can’t stand Trump, I would have voted Republican because current events would have a direct affect me. But as a Canadian, I’m concerned by his open disregard for the close ties our countries have historically shared.

Thanks for genuinely answering my question, rather than just responding with the usual "he hates Trudeau" explanation.

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by Sporty

I agree regarding the Democrats, but there's a key difference: Trump often responds based on personal grievances rather than policy, and he doesn't seem to hold the same mutual respect for Canada as other US leaders, past and present.



No, you did not. My comment was more general, as it feels like whenever someone offers a slightly different perspective from the group here, they're immediately labeled as a socialist or leftist.

I don't know what our options are either, I simply find it odd that there is such a response by so many Canadians who claim to be patriotic yet will cheer on someone who has shown an open disregard to the mutually respectful relationship shared between our two countries.



While he may not be anti-industry or anti-oil, his stance on raising tariffs on Canadian industries outside of oil ends up hurting all Canadians collectively.

If I lived in the U.S., even though I can’t stand Trump, I would have voted Republican because current events would have a direct affect me. But as a Canadian, I’m concerned by his open disregard for the close ties our countries have historically shared.

Thanks for genuinely answering my question, rather than just responding with the usual "he hates Trudeau" explanation.

Canada has been sucking off the US teat on nation defense for many, many years. It is a pet peave of Trumps and I don't blame him one wit. We have zero defense capabilities, and just assume the US will defend us because they don't want different neighbors.

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by Sporty

I asked a question earlier that no one seems willing to answer. Can anyone explain how Trump will actually be good for Canada? Setting aside personal feelings about Trudeau, how will his protectionist policies benefit us? Implying that I must be a socialist for asking these questions is oversimplified and doesn’t address the actual question.

The mutual dislike that many Canadians and Trump have against Trudeau will ultimately harm the average Canadian. Personal grievances aside, it's everyday people who will bear the consequences, not Trudeau, who is already set for life.

It's simple, this won't help Canada....yet.
Trudeau has spent 8 years bashing Trump and insulting him.
Now, when we have a true Conservative gov't that will change. Both PP and Trump are like-minded business people. That will be the time when we see the benefit. 2 people working together.

We had 2 lefties working together for the last 4 years, what benefit did Canada see?
Pipelines going south? Nope!
New trade markets opened? Nope!
I could go on...

[BuckCuller]

Originally Posted by flydude

Is it too late to change my prediction LOL?

Nah it’s never too late.

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Read my post, Trump isn't pushing an anti oil agenda, that is good for our oil industry, since we sell oil to the USA. Trump isn't anti industry, again good for Canada, since we supply resources. Trump isn't a WEF puppet, again good for Canada. Trump isn't pushing the green agenda, again good for Canada.

Hate to burst your bubble.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10856827/...nada-us-trade/

[bessiedog]

No way wuz I gunna bet on that race… really too much noise to tell.

Does anyone know if a Keystone revival is a possibility??

If so… holy boom times no?


Dint we have a lot of it built?

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

Hate to burst your bubble.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10856827/...nada-us-trade/

Some people have reservations, but are those reservations really the result of a hate for Trump? Only time will tell what actually happens.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

Hate to burst your bubble.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10856827/...nada-us-trade/

Oil will benefit under Trump. Canadian oil will benefit under Trump.

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

Oil will benefit under Trump. Canadian oil will benefit under Trump.

Unless of course, Trudeau shuts us down.

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by Sporty

I asked a question earlier that no one seems willing to answer. Can anyone explain how Trump will actually be good for Canada? Setting aside personal feelings about Trudeau, how will his protectionist policies benefit us? Implying that I must be a socialist for asking these questions is oversimplified and doesn’t address the actual question.

The mutual dislike that many Canadians and Trump have against Trudeau will ultimately harm the average Canadian. Personal grievances aside, it's everyday people who will bear the consequences, not Trudeau, who is already set for life.

The USA has always been Canada's largest trading partner and biggest consumer of our products by miles compared to any of our other trading partners. When America prospers so does Canada. We've always had our trade disputes, probably always will, but overall our economic prosperity is predominently dependant on America's prosperity not vice versa.

[AxeMan]

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

Hate to burst your bubble.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10856827/...nada-us-trade/

Thanks for the laugh. Quotes an article by Global with Lori Williams as the expert. When legacy media Global needs an NDP opinion, they jump directly to Lori Williams at Mount Royal.

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

Hate to burst your bubble.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10856827/...nada-us-trade/

Global lol, try again.

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

Unless of course, Trudeau shuts us down.

^This, all day long. The lieberals hate oil & Alberta, but of course love shaking us and the industry down for $.

[traderal]

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

Hate to burst your bubble.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10856827/...nada-us-trade/

Pffft Gobble gobble news with their usual "experts" who haven't done a days work in their lives while sitting in their tenured positions and examining their belly lint..

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

Unless of course, Trudeau shuts us down.

Trudeau is done.

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

Hate to burst your bubble.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10856827/...nada-us-trade/

Isn't that entire article opinions and fear mongering?

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

Hate to burst your bubble.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10856827/...nada-us-trade/

Have you not been keeping up with current affairs in Canada? Gebo and the turd are trying to sanction Alberta oil and gas already and Daniel Smith has to take the Lieberal OWO nut cases to court yet again. Trump is the least of our worries. We have plenty to worry about right here in Kanuckastan! Before we worry about what a President is going to do what is best for there own country. To bad we don't have a like minded leader here.

[BuckCuller]

Originally Posted by Sporty

I asked a question earlier that no one seems willing to answer. Can anyone explain how Trump will actually be good for Canada? Setting aside personal feelings about Trudeau, how will his protectionist policies benefit us? Implying that I must be a socialist for asking these questions is oversimplified and doesn’t address the actual question.

The mutual dislike that many Canadians and Trump have against Trudeau will ultimately harm the average Canadian. Personal grievances aside, it's everyday people who will bear the consequences, not Trudeau, who is already set for life.

That is not even a relevant question. The question should be how is Trump good for America? Trump is the leader of America not Canada and he will do what is right for his country and I respect the hell out of that.
How about instead of asking what he can do for Canada, it’s time for you to ask yourself what the Canadian Prime minister can do for Canada.
One thing that will benefit Canada with Trump being the leader of the free world is he will do his best to end the wars that are sucking our tax dollars out of the country and keep our enemies at bay. Another thing that might benefit us is he might help us flush the Turd.

But if you think the leader of the USA should be selected to help out a foreign country and not his own, well let’s just say I wouldn’t want you as our leader.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by BuckCuller

That is not even a relevant question. The question should be how is Trump good for America? Trump is the leader of America not Canada and he will do what is right for his country and I respect the hell out of that.
How about instead of asking what he can do for Canada, it’s time for you to ask yourself what the Canadian Prime minister can do for Canada.
One thing that will benefit Canada with Trump being the leader of the free world is he will do his best to end the wars that are sucking our tax dollars out of the country and keep our enemies at bay. Another thing that might benefit us is he might help us flush the Turd.

But if you think the leader of the USA should be selected to help out a foreign country and not his own, well let’s just say I wouldn’t want you as our leader.

Exactly, a leader should do what is best for his country, not what is best for the UN, or the WEF. And if our biggest trading party has a strong economy, that helps our economy. Biden has certainly never helped Canada, his first action was to shut down Keystone, which definitely didn't help us. As far as tariffs go, Canada puts huge tariffs on dairy products to protect the Quebec dairy industry, so it's not like the US is the one introducing the idea of tariffs.

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by BuckCuller

That is not even a relevant question. The question should be how is Trump good for America? Trump is the leader of America not Canada and he will do what is right for his country and I respect the hell out of that.
How about instead of asking what he can do for Canada, it’s time for you to ask yourself what the Canadian Prime minister can do for Canada.
One thing that will benefit Canada with Trump being the leader of the free world is he will do his best to end the wars that are sucking our tax dollars out of the country and keep our enemies at bay. Another thing that might benefit us is he might help us flush the Turd.

But if you think the leader of the USA should be selected to help out a foreign country and not his own, well let’s just say I wouldn’t want you as our leader.

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Exactly, a leader should do what is best for his country, not what is best for the UN, or the WEF. And if our biggest trading party has a strong economy, that helps our economy. Biden has certainly never helped Canada, his first action was to shut down Keystone, which definitely didn't help us. As far as tariffs go, Canada puts huge tariffs on dairy products to protect the Quebec dairy industry, so it's not like the US is the one introducing the idea of tariffs.

Absolutely this^^^^^

Why people don't understand this is beyond me. Our neighbours to the south now have a President that takes pride in their country and is stating he will make it better for them and America first.

We have leaders that are embarrassed to be Canadians and are doing everything in their scheme of power to destroy Canada and the people who live here.

Canadians cannot expect Trump or anyone to care about what we are doing or how this Country is being managed and run into the ground. Canadians are getting what we deserve for empowering stupid in Ottawa.

BW

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

Oil will benefit under Trump. Canadian oil will benefit under Trump.

Is this truly the case?

Alberta’s oil prosperity along with its critical impact on Canadian GDP is contingent on… commodity price. That is contingent upon supply and demand. The US will likely ramp up production again under Trump because he loves low gas prices. That means more production and lower prices for Canada. Not sure the expectation of an oil boom will come from this.

The other problem is Canada’s price on pollution. We can say it will be gone under the conservatives however they have said they are keeping it on industry…just removing in from individuals….

Therefore as the price of oil falls… the Canada cost of exploration, production and refining will rise… which means cost go up and economics to drill drops. This may in turn, actually cause a bust in our oil industry as it’s done in the past.

Canada is screwed because our productivity sucks. Combined with an price on pollution means under a booming US protectionist economy with or without tariffs will be a drag on our economy.

We are fighting with China, India, and now potentially the US. We need a friend in the US and haven’t truly had that since Reagan.

Time will tell…but if history is vision into the future… troubling time we’re ahead regardless who won the presidency.

But anyone who thinks Canada is a force to be reckoned with in the eyes of American politics is living in a dream world. Trudeau has taken us well off the path of international relevance.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Is this truly the case?

Alberta’s oil prosperity along with its critical impact on Canadian GDP is contingent on… commodity price. That is contingent upon supply and demand. The US will likely ramp up production again under Trump because he loves low gas prices. That means more production and lower prices for Canada. Not sure the expectation of an oil boom will come from this.

The other problem is Canada’s price on pollution. We can say it will be gone under the conservatives however they have said they are keeping it on industry…just removing in from individuals….

Therefore as the price of oil falls… the Canada cost of exploration, production and refining will rise… which means cost go up and economics to drill drops. This may in turn, actually cause a bust in our oil industry as it’s done in the past.

Canada is screwed because our productivity sucks. Combined with an price on pollution means under a booming US protectionist economy with or without tariffs will be a drag on our economy.

We are fighting with China, India, and now potentially the US. We need a friend in the US and haven’t truly had that since Reagan.

Time will tell…but if history is vision into the future… troubling time we’re ahead regardless who won the presidency.

But anyone who thinks Canada is a force to be reckoned with in the eyes of American politics is living in a dream world. Trudeau has taken us well off the path of international relevance.

Yes it is the truth. Even liberal economists can’t hide that fact.

[Stinky Buffalo]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

troubling time we’re ahead regardless who won the presidency.

But anyone who thinks Canada is a force to be reckoned with in the eyes of American politics is living in a dream world. Trudeau has taken us well off the path of international relevance.

I agree.

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by stinky buffalo

i agree.

x100

BW

[flydude]

US imports from Canada of crude oil and petroleum products have plateaued since Trump took office in 2017. I wouldn't expect that to increase anytime soon.


https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le...mttimusca1&f=a

[Pathfinder76]

Did you forget Biden was in office more years than trump in that period? lol.

I’m beginning to think fisherman and hunters think differently. Anyone else notice this trend?

[gunluvr]

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

Have you not been keeping up with current affairs in Canada? Gebo and the turd are trying to sanction Alberta oil and gas already and Daniel Smith has to take the Lieberal OWO nut cases to court yet again. Trump is the least of our worries. We have plenty to worry about right here in Kanuckastan! Before we worry about what a President is going to do what is best for there own country. To bad we don't have a like minded leader here.

Until the SDTC thing is resolved nothing will pass through parliament. Trudeau will do anything he can to conceal the corruption of the liberal party and if that means no acting government for the next year, that's what we get.
He'd be perfectly happy to ride out his last year jetting around the world and surfing in Tofino.
For now Guilbeau's plans are idle threats.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by flydude

US imports from Canada of crude oil and petroleum products have plateaued since Trump took office in 2017. I wouldn't expect that to increase anytime soon.


https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le...mttimusca1&f=a

There were rising under Trump, then covid hit, by the time it had passed, Biden was in power.