What happens when it all goes dark?

[does it ALL outdoors]

Originally Posted by ghostguy6

I would fire up the wood stove and be thankful I dont have to go to work or hear any more of Trudope's BS for the next month!

After reading that i kinda wish it WOULD go out for a month.

No more pipeline bs, Nutley or Hoffman, Zoolander or Freeland, no more U.N talk

[7mmremmag]

Originally Posted by calgarychef

Some people are really out of touch. If the **** hit the fan and you decided to “get on the road and go somewhere else” you’ll probably die on that road. Traffic jams, running out of gas, looters when you’re stranded etc. all are real problems and you’ll never get where you’re going.

Stay in your house where you already have your equipment and gear. Hopefully you’ll have a home close to water, you’ll be able to heat your home with wood. You’ll have a good group of neighbours who can band together and work as a unit to ensure your immediate deeds and make sure that the “hordes” don’t take what you need to survive.

This idea of running away to “survive” is stupid ....Running away to what? Who could realistically live in the bush with minimal equipment for an extended period of time?

For those of us who go camping or hunting even if we really “know how”. When our supplies run out...we’re “done.”

Not all of us have wood fire places at home. Myself I would have no choice but to head to my cabin. Yes its a 7hr drive, but with my Ford full & my slip tank I can get 2400km.
Also my cabin has a few months supply of firewood, generator, barrel of gas and +/- 300lbs of propane.

[calgarychef]

Originally Posted by 7mmremmag

Not all of us have wood fire places at home. Myself I would have no choice but to head to my cabin. Yes its a 7hr drive, but with my Ford full & my slip tank I can get 2400km.
Also my cabin has a few months supply of firewood, generator, barrel of gas and +/- 300lbs of propane.

And if it was really bad and everyone was heading for “somewhere else” you’d die in a traffic jam the likes of which we’ve never seen.

[ken1989]

Originally Posted by calgarychef

And if it was really bad and everyone was heading for “somewhere else” you’d die in a traffic jam the likes of which we’ve never seen.

Probably like Fort McMurray fire traffic jam many times over.

Biggest problem would be desperate people doing whatever to care for and protect their loved ones.

[TBD]

for a taste how bad things will get, when the pop is starving -- all options are on the table.


A good movie to watch `The road`




TBD

[ETOWNCANUCK]

It would probably take a couple of days or so to realize that the power wasn’t coming back.
No one would go into survival mode immediately.
After that, most would wait for some sort of message to get out from the government.
Then widespread panic would ensue.
Those in the major cities or densely populated areas would not be able to get out anywhere.
Many would be killed within the first few hours or days.
Marshal Law will be declared, so not only will you have to worry about your neighbors but police and military as well.
Many people would take their lives and those of their families if it came down to that.
I would think 30 days would be enough to badly affect balance and send humanity in a spiral that would take years to overcome.
Things would never be the same after that.

Probably wouldn’t take long for war to break out.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by drhu22

Great post, heres your prize...


Edit: I thought it was obviously tongue in cheek... I guess not to some people.

Since we are handing out gifts.....

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I return the other half to you....

[ice]

Considering we live in a province with huge reserves of fuel. I don’t think it would be much of an issue.
Sure electric pump’s won’t pump fuel. But pump’s that run off fuel sure can.

[drhu22]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Since we are handing out gifts..... Attachment 152244 I return the other half to you....

Now that was funny! I really laughed at that because its true sometimes... still, you shouldnt have slapped me.

[FQ2]

I find this too be interesting bathroom reading



https://thesurvivalmom.com/wp-conten...ess-Manual.pdf

[FQ2]

100 Items to Disappear First

1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won't heat a room.)
15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. "Survival-in-a-Can"
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens

From a Sarajevo War Survivor:
Experiencing horrible things that can happen in a war - death of parents and
friends, hunger and malnutrition, endless freezing cold, fear, sniper attacks.

1. Stockpiling helps. but you never no how long trouble will last, so locate
near renewable food sources.
2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden.
3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war
quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold's.
4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity - it's the easiest to
do without (unless you're in a very nice climate with no need for heat.)
5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without
heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy - it makes a lot of
the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs
enough heat to "warm", not to cook. It's cheap too, especially if you buy it in
bulk.
6. Bring some books - escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more
valuable as the war continues. Sure, it's great to have a lot of survival
guides, but you'll figure most of that out on your own anyway - trust me, you'll
have a lot of time on your hands.
7. The feeling that you're human can fade pretty fast. I can't tell you how many
people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of
toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to
lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else.
8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches

[Ken07AOVette]

Sit in my house and live normally.

I have a natural gas automatic generator. And lots of oil for oil changes.

I have 600L of gas in the boat for the honda generator should the nat gas stop pumping, but that would likely take a long time.

I have diesel and gas for the trucks, and the freezer is jammed to the top.


Prepare for the worst and make the best happen, because hoping and praying doesn't do squat. Fishing would happen daily if things got bad. 2 of us could live in the boat for a long time.

[calgarychef]

Originally Posted by Muller

I’d stay home. It’s where I have everything I need.
I think society would crumble within a week to ten days.
It’s estimated 90% would die within the first 12 month.
Most are ill prepared.

If your interested in this stuff, check out the “ vanderlism” on Metcalf substation.
It could have turned the whole continent dark.

I think you’ve got it right. Everybody talks about heading out of the city....to what? The same problems exist in the city as do in the country except you have your equipment, food and guns. I’d invite a few neighbours over to sit in my wood heated house. Empty the freezer of steaks after a few days and get them drying into jerky. Load the guns and fortify the house. In the country there will still be people wandering and looking for “stuff” so the same problems of looting exist.

If it was really bad hitting the road would be the worst thing anyone could do.
Permanent Traffic jams caused by accidents and running out of gas. A person could be stuck in that mess and necpver get out.

[Bushrat]

The more prepared and well supplied you are the larger the target on your head will be. Those who think they will sit in their moose camp or at home with their generators, fuel supplies, food, etc, will be the first to go if the feces hit the fan.
People will kill you for a pound of hamburger or a gallon of gas. You might be able to defend yourself for a while but they will kill you sooner than you think. People will be like wolves, the sound of gunfire will mean somebody's got something somebody wants and will attract even more packs of people to fight over it until whatever it is is used up.

If you think humans are not animals you will find out different real quick if such a scenario happens. Sad part is eventually something like this will happen

[Penner]

Assuming it’s the end of the world as we know it (not just a handful of days)... I hope most who answered are my neighbors cause I’ll just use what you all left behind as you won’t make it long enough.

[Ken07AOVette]

LOL

This is getting hilarious.

Did some of you guys just watch The Purge or something?

Wait a minute!

THIS JUST IN!!!

[FQ2]

1 in 7 chance it'll be a Thursday

[Marsha]

Sit back and watch all the young smart ass suffer and die off because a smart phone will not work !!No u tube to tell them how to strike a match for fire,
How to prepare food, because of the Prepared meals at safeway running out.
and no entertainment will cause all young to die off, most have forgotten what a book is

This old fart will sit back with a nice fire, able to cook what ever I have or catch, enjoying a huge collection of paperbacks.. by candle light....

[mattthegorby]

I think I have allot more faith in humanity than most, lol.

In my opinion, best thing to do is keep a couple months of food you regularly cycle through, have a couple months of firewood, and build good relationships with your neighbors ahead of time.

[RandyBoBandy]

If it all goes dark for all of us..Won't matter because we will all be in the same predicament... Most will help each other out I think.. NO ??

[JReed]

One things guaranteed, if groceries become an issue, one of those mulies down the road are going to get it lol

[calgarychef]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

Sit in my house and live normally.

I have a natural gas automatic generator. And lots of oil for oil changes.

I have 600L of gas in the boat for the honda generator should the nat gas stop pumping, but that would likely take a long time.

I have diesel and gas for the trucks, and the freezer is jammed to the top.


Prepare for the worst and make the best happen, because hoping and praying doesn't do squat. Fishing would happen daily if things got bad. 2 of us could live in the boat for a long time.

And when the natural gas stops?

[vcmm]

I would just be going to Kens house

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by fishtank

i would hold out at costco

Sure, live on free samples for ever.

Grizz

[Dick284]

I’d simple go into work!
And probably bring the family with.

Kind of a hidden benefit when you get to run one of the provinces key blackstart entities.

[Oldan Grumpi]

There’d be a helluva baby boom nine months after the lights came back on.

[KGB]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

Sit in my house and live normally.

I have a natural gas automatic generator. And lots of oil for oil changes.

I have 600L of gas in the boat for the honda generator should the nat gas stop pumping, but that would likely take a long time.

I have diesel and gas for the trucks, and the freezer is jammed to the top.


Prepare for the worst and make the best happen, because hoping and praying doesn't do squat. Fishing would happen daily if things got bad. 2 of us could live in the boat for a long time.

Need a friend? I can be your friend! I can be your only friend! And I will bring vodka to make it more fun, lol!

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by calgarychef

And when the natural gas stops?

Then i switch to liquid fossil fuels. I have a stockpile as I said.

Originally Posted by vcmm

I would just be going to Kens house

Nah, lets go fishing!!!

Originally Posted by KGB

Need a friend? I can be your friend! I can be your only friend! And I will bring vodka to make it more fun, lol!

Sure! Just no alcohol on the boat lol

[Red Bullets]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

2 of us could live in the boat for a long time.

When the lights go off the pirates come out to play. Be sure to mount a couple 8 pound cannons on your boat. Keep the harpoons sharp.

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by Red Bullets

When the lights go off the pirates come out to play. Be sure to mount a couple 8 pound cannons on your boat. Keep the harpoons sharp.

actually I have a cannon!!! lol!

It is beautiful, Oldman made it for me. Weighs close to 100 lbs. It will launch a golfball 1500 yards, imagine what an aluminum slug made on the lathe would do to a pirate boat!