yellowstone

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by smitty9

Didn't know Bonanza had that much scheming, backstabbing, politics, thematic material, perspectives from First Nations, bloody violence, and rape scenes.

I must be thinking of a different Bonanza...lol

They didn't have helicopters in Dances with Wolves either....

[jungleboy]

Originally Posted by smitty9

Didn't know Bonanza had that much scheming, backstabbing, politics, thematic material, perspectives from First Nations, bloody violence, and rape scenes.

I must be thinking of a different Bonanza...lol

Bonanza was a kinder gentler version of the same story. A wealthy landowner and his family trying to keep and protect it from everyone trying to steal it.

Anyway my statement was tongue in cheek.

[Mavrick]

Originally Posted by smitty9

Didn't know Bonanza had that much scheming, backstabbing, politics, thematic material, perspectives from First Nations, bloody violence, and rape scenes.

I must be thinking of a different Bonanza...lol

Nope it did not, the odd bit of gun play but most the time it was a punch to the jaw and the bad guy was out cold. Man I miss the simpler times of my childhood.

Maybe we need to bring back the old one punch to the jaw enforcement.

[bat119]

The train station location was picked because of a loophole in the law, I'm sure this will come up in a future plot when the train station is discovered.


In the TV series Yellowstone, enemies of the Dutton family are taken across the border into Wyoming and are executed and disposed of "at the train station". It is implied that the rules of the "Zone of Death" apply to this practice, including the location's juxtaposition with "three States" (Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho) and the lack of ability to prosecute crimes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_o...uding%20murder.

Lot's of Beth's out there I was married to one for a brief stint.

[Cross Eyed Cowboy]

Originally Posted by riden

I would argue the last season’s story line has been very “woke”. But I’m an old Fudd.

Your correct, the producers of the series even admitted such after being critized by the left wing media for being a right wing cowboy show!

[riden]

Originally Posted by Cross Eyed Cowboy

Your correct, the producers of the series even admitted such after being critized by the left wing media for being a right wing cowboy show!

Waiting on the better half. Had a few minutes to kill on Google.

Here is an interesting view on the show. Maybe we are all swallowing liberal pills. I have to say, I agree with much of this article. I have always felt the show is very pro liberal, and the last season was over the top to the point I could barely tolerate the message

Ya, I really ****ed the wife off complaining during the last season.


https://www.themarysue.com/yellowsto...and-i-love-it/


I quote:


Because the show isn’t subtle. It is explicitly depicting the wealthy Duttons as, (as Mark Harris so eloquently said), “murder lunatics.” It is saying that these people, the wealthy capitalists, are murderous and evil. Even as we root for them, the show never lets us forget what they are. They are the legacy of the colonization and genocide inflicted upon indigenous people across the United States. And they will continue to murder and extort to hold onto this territory that does not belong to them.

[riden]

Originally Posted by Cross Eyed Cowboy

Your correct, the producers of the series even admitted such after being critized by the left wing media for being a right wing cowboy show!

Is this the article you’re referring to?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tate-show.html

He told the New York Times, however, that: 'People perceive all my stuff as ‘red state,’ and it’s the most ridiculous thing. If you truly look at this show or Sicario or Wind River, these are pretty wildly progressive notions.'


Sheridan said that his main aim is 'responsible storytelling.'

'I wanted there to be real consequences. I wanted to never, ever shy away from, "This was the price."'

He added later on that his politics - in particular, critiques in the past of both former President Donald Trump and the concept of white privilege - are more complex.


Sheridan told The Atlantic his main aim is 'responsible storytelling.' 'I wanted there to be real consequences. I wanted to never, ever shy away from, This was the price'

He added later on that his politics - in particular, critiques in the past of both former President Donald Trump and the concept of white privilege - are more complex

Kevin Costner as John Dutton in a promo photo for Paramount's 'Yellowstone'
Sheridan said: 'You should be mindful of not berating the subject you are trying to educate, and find a way for them to digest your point of view without turning them off to it.'



Watch out for tasty Kool Aid guys.

[amosfella]

Originally Posted by 1894Cowboy

100%. I was over Beth midway through the first season. There's no way in real life Jamie would have let himself be treated the way he was, by her and the dad. They would have both been killed in their sleep.

I'd think you'd be surprised how many 'Jamies' there are out there. These guys/gals feel powerless. Also, did you miss that part where she wanted an abortion, and Jamie got her sterilized?

Originally Posted by Fish along

I hear ya,I have not watched any Yellowstone yet only a segment where Beth goes of the deep end in a bar scene,and i thought immediately,what a bunch of bullcrap,nothing to do with any kind of reality,totally absurd,Monty Python stuff but not funny.

I haven't watched the season, but I saw the clip, and I can tell you that when I bounced at a bar, that happened more than once. The most damage inflicted on each other in a fight was a fight between girls. The most damage to stuff was a fight between guys. Girls tended to try to injure the other girl's face and boobs, while guys tended toward body blows and shoving. Most fights between girls had to do with one not liking the way the other girl was looking at 'her guy'. You'd be surprised how many 'good and wholesome' girls that just happened to be drunk initiated girl on girl fights. I'd say it was most. The girl didn't have to be psychotic in every day life.

The most interesting type of fight was the fights that resulted from someone (white knight) trying to get into the middle of an argument between a guy and his girl. Often times (but not all), the girl would attack the guy trying to 'help' her, and her guy would start fighting him, and she'd get any object at hand that she could use (fork, knife, glass, bottle, etc) against the white knight. After seeing stuff like that go down several times a week, I have ZERO respect for white knights. They're nothing other than willing pawns to a 'queen'.

Originally Posted by PartTimeHunter

Not wanting to sound condescending but you must be young. I grew up in a time and a place that only one fight (be it women, men .... or mixed teams lol) in a bar was a slow night. In a place serving alcohol to 4 or 500 people nightly it isn't out of the realm of possibility that a fight or two or three would break out.

Yep. Having worked in bars and clubs, I'll say this, bars and clubs are Satan's playground. Shutting down the bar after last call, and getting the drunks to go home was the worst part.

[smitty9]

Originally Posted by riden

Waiting on the better half. Had a few minutes to kill on Google.

Here is an interesting view on the show. Maybe we are all swallowing liberal pills. I have to say, I agree with much of this article. I have always felt the show is very pro liberal, and the last season was over the top to the point I could barely tolerate the message

Ya, I really ****ed the wife off complaining during the last season.


https://www.themarysue.com/yellowsto...and-i-love-it/


I quote:


Because the show isn’t subtle. It is explicitly depicting the wealthy Duttons as, (as Mark Harris so eloquently said), “murder lunatics.” It is saying that these people, the wealthy capitalists, are murderous and evil. Even as we root for them, the show never lets us forget what they are. They are the legacy of the colonization and genocide inflicted upon indigenous people across the United States. And they will continue to murder and extort to hold onto this territory that does not belong to them.

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Which is amusing /hilarious, or sad, or both. I teach social studies; so... what "version" of history do members of the AO forum want me to teach? The sanitary, "white knight" versions where Europeans are the civilized colonizers "benignly" teaching the original peoples of North America the """correct ways""" to live while glossing over atrocities,...or the way Monica Dutton depicts history (though admittedly some really heavy yet hammy, didactic, eye-rolling writing though) with her perspective on Christopher Columbus?

So, it does amuse me that some would be offended that the show is "too woke" or view it as "very pro liberal." As in, tears streaming down my face. If people can't "handle" Monica Dutton, then what does that say about them?

As far as woke goes, have you guys seen how Piper Perabo's character is treated? Perhaps not as woke as you thought. Anyways, I digress.

The fundamental brilliance of Yellowstone is repeating the trope of what made Godfather and Goodfellas so brilliant an watchable. And that is constructing / writing a storyline narrative where your audience is doubly fooled into actually cheering for morally repugnant people. The audience is duped into "cheering" for the Duttons, even though they ARE murderers and ARE scoundrels.

I love it.

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Put it another way...I wonder what people think of 1923 and the residential boarding school storyline? Woke? Or just relaying some fictionalized history grounded in truth. Are you cheering for the nuns...or the native kids? As a fallen Catholic, I know who I am cheering for...it ain't the adult wearing the black and white.

And by the way, nothing I said above has anything remotely to do with "liberal". Ah...American media and your ripple influence into Canadian culture...too funny...

[1894Cowboy]

Originally Posted by amosfella

Also, did you miss that part where she wanted an abortion, and Jamie got her sterilized?

Regardless. They were both young and scared. She is so consumed by hatred and poison i'm surprised she hasn't burst into flame. She could drown at the bottom of a bottle of vodka for all I care. And the dad didn't know about this, yet he still constantly and always treats Jamie like nothing more than a submissive b*tch.

I can't believe I'm discussing a redneck soap opera

[amosfella]

Then don't.

[stubblejumper01]

I can’t believe no one has mentioned that the coal shovel ( not sure what it’s called) in the opening credits is turning backwards. It comes right after the blast in the mine. Every episode has it

[ClutchCanadian4]

Man went to go look for 1923 on Prime tonight and it hadn't come out. Quick Google tells me it's on winter break too... Sooo stupid. Stop with the breaks. You filmed the show, let's watch it.

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[tbiddy]

Originally Posted by ClutchCanadian4

Man went to go look for 1923 on Prime tonight and it hadn't come out. Quick Google tells me it's on winter break too... Sooo stupid. Stop with the breaks. You filmed the show, let's watch it.

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It’s on Paramount+. For the price (think it’s $12), it’s worth it. Binge the newest season of Yellowstone, Tulsa King, and 1923 (it starts again Feb 5). Mayor of Kingstown starts season 2 tonight. Watch Top Gun: Maverick and it’s well worth the $12.

[ClutchCanadian4]

Originally Posted by tbiddy

It’s on Paramount+. For the price (think it’s $12), it’s worth it. Binge the newest season of Yellowstone, Tulsa King, and 1923 (it starts again Feb 5). Mayor of Kingstown starts season 2 tonight. Watch Top Gun: Maverick and it’s well worth the $12.

I get Paramount+ through my prime subscription. I was just saying I think the breaks in the middle of the seasons are dumb. Release a weekly episode until the season is done.

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