Feds eyeing 'variety of options' for planned firearm buyback program: Mendicino

[Twisted Canuck]

Sure. Bill C-21 hasn't passed yet, there is no idea how to run the program or what compensation will be, but they want to run a 'pilot program' someplace safe. Sure.

It seems absurd to me that they will launch the pilot without the IT infrastructure in place.

It seems laughable that they will launch phase 2 nationally in spring 2023. The whole point of a pilot is to run a complete test, evaluate and implement changes prior to full roll out.

They wont even get the pilot launched let alone complete by spring 2023.

Maybe spring 2024 is what they meant.

With c21 twisting in the wind, saying nothing about the regulatory regime for post buy back firearms legal status, but the clear intent to expand the prohibited guns significantly, how can they even launch a pilot without knowing exactly which guns are (and arent) subject to the buy back??

This is going to be like watching a dumpster fire loaded on the back of a slow rolling train wreck.

But, mark my words, some well connected consulting firm is going to get a nice juicy sole source contract worth a pile of money to study/recommend/maybe-implement this train wreck, which will end up being orders of magnitude more expensive then the long gun registry, and just as effective at reducing crime and making Canada safer.

Jesus wept.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck

Sure. Bill C-21 hasn't passed yet, there is no idea how to run the program or what compensation will be, but they want to run a 'pilot program' someplace safe. Sure.

It seems absurd to me that they will launch the pilot without the IT infrastructure in place.

It seems laughable that they will launch phase 2 nationally in spring 2023. The whole point of a pilot is to run a complete test, evaluate and implement changes prior to full roll out.

They wont even get the pilot launched let alone complete by spring 2023.

Maybe spring 2024 is what they meant.

With c21 twisting in the wind, saying nothing about the regulatory regime for post buy back firearms legal status, but the clear intent to expand the prohibited guns significantly, how can they even launch a pilot without knowing exactly which guns are (and arent) subject to the buy back??

This is going to be like watching a dumpster fire loaded on the back of a slow rolling train wreck

Exactly, how asinine is it to start the program, when they keep adding to the list? By the time they get done the first round in PEI, they can start again to get the new additions to the list. Maybe they can even match the 30% compliance rate that New Zealand ended up with. And with no registration records, they will never know how many banned firearms are unaccounted for.

[fps plus]

Does their plan include lube or no lube ? That’s the choice it seems

[Twisted Canuck]

If you don't play along with their plan, then you don't need to worry about that.

[Chowdowncowtown]

Originally Posted by bat119

"potential third parties."?

Thugs, outlaw bikers, mafia leg breakers?

They just mean private companies who could run the program for them.

If you haven't seen the ludicrous RFI for the gun buyback program they put out last year, have a gander: https://buyandsell.gc.ca/cds/public/...489_rfi_en.pdf

Basically the gist of it is requesting information along the lines of "What is a gun buyback, and can you do it for us?". Of course, engaging a third party to administer the buyback will push the costs up as well.

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman

Followed by disarming the first Nations...see how that goes.

BW

About as well as disarming the country boys..

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by raab

756 million in cost. Calling it right now it'll be 3-4x that.

I'm calling 10 billion just for the contracts, legal fees, and the accompanying bureaucracy that will go with it.

Then there is the cost of the actual gun buyback. All I can see is class action lawsuits suing to cover the cost of equipment, bullets, powders, scopes, rests, accessories that will be rendered useless without the guns it was purchased for. Compensation for the loss of a recreational activity, closed businesses, loss of profits, jobs on and on, etc., etc,

The gov't needs to be sued big time.

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by Bushrat

I'm calling 10 billion just for the contracts, legal fees, and the accompanying bureaucracy that will go with it.

Then there is the cost of the actual gun buyback. All I can see is class action lawsuits suing to cover the cost of equipment, bullets, powders, scopes, rests, accessories that will be rendered useless without the guns it was purchased for. Compensation for the loss of a recreational activity, closed businesses, loss of profits, jobs on and on, etc., etc,

The gov't needs to be sued big time.

Your way light on your cost estimate. These liberals are a costly bunch. If this was to go through, and I don't think it will. Were looking at 5 times what you estimated it will cost.

If the turd had any balls at all he'd make this an election issue, and call a general election.

BW

[270WIN]

Originally Posted by IronNoggin

Liberals' gun grab to begin in Prince Edward Island

The federal government this year proposes to launch its long-promised national buyback of prohibited firearms starting in Prince Edward Island, according to a federal memo. Islanders own few guns and represent a low “risk assessment” before RCMP expand the program nationwide, according to Blacklock's Reporter.

“Prince Edward Island will be used as a pilot and will be the first point of collection based on the smaller number of firearms,” said an August 31 Transition Book for the Minister of Public Works. “As a result of lessons learned, gaps analysis and risk assessment would inform the second phase national rollout.”

“Phase two, the national rollout, is planned for spring 2023 once an information technology case management system is in full place,” said the memo. The department acknowledged “very limited interest from the industry” in supporting the buyback program first proposed three years ago.

No budget was detailed for the gun grab. The Parliamentary Budget Office in a 2021 Cost Estimate Of The Firearm Buyback Program put expenses at $756 million but warned details “remain unclear.”

“There remain too many outstanding questions on how this program will be implemented to currently develop a complete picture of the true potential cost of the program,” said Cost Estimate. The number of affected firearms ranged widely from 150,000 to as many as 518,000.

https://www.westernstandard.news/new...2e0627e16.html

I wonder how the people in PEI feel about being treated like laboratory rats or mice in an experiment - expendable as it were.

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by 270WIN

I wonder how the people in PEI feel about being treated like laboratory rats or mice in an experiment - expendable as it were.

Considering it's a red province....guessing they welcome it

[urban rednek]

Originally Posted by 270WIN

I wonder how the people in PEI feel about being treated like laboratory rats or mice in an experiment - expendable as it were.

Considering their most recent voting history, they should be happy to be the sacrificial lambs for their virtue signalling overlords.

[270WIN]

Yes. Like the rats and mice in my analogy, I guess, mercifully, they just don't know any better.

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by 270WIN

I wonder how the people in PEI feel about being treated like laboratory rats or mice in an experiment - expendable as it were.

Not a lot of gun owners in PEI. In fact less than 3000 restricted, license holders and just over 6000 firearms of all types license holders. Only two gun clubs. It will be interesting to see how it plays out there. Gov't picks the lowest hanging fruit in a liberal stronghold to get their feet wet.

https://www.canadagunclub.com/p/prin...gun-clubs.html

[270WIN]

Originally Posted by Bushrat

Not a lot of gun owners in PEI. In fact less than 3000 restricted, license holders and just over 6000 firearms of all types license holders. Only two gun clubs. It will be interesting to see how it plays out there. Gov't picks the lowest hanging fruit in a liberal stronghold to get their feet wet.

https://www.canadagunclub.com/p/prin...gun-clubs.html

And only 4 seats in the House of Commons. As I said, expendable if need be.

[Sundog57]

PEI has been voting Liberal... for ever.
Four seats with about 40,000 Islanders per seat
Not many restricteds
No big game
No risk for the Liberals even if they (as will inevitably) F it up

[barsik]

I want to remind everyone of what happened in High River. the feds know more than you think so don't be overconfident. make up a little time capsule and put it where no one will trip over it. the underpinnings of this legislation has its roots in the WEF.

[coolpete1]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

About as well as disarming the country boys..

I think there are 9 rcmp covering from tofield to viking out here , they don't show up to anything ever , except the odd ticket . I think our buddy justin is gonna have difficulties at best . On top of that , no one is playing ball with that idiot out here.