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Old 07-19-2015, 11:34 AM
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I throw a hunk of bacon on top before starting the process, just a couple of inches for flavor and a little fat.
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Old 07-19-2015, 12:41 PM
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I throw a hunk of bacon on top before starting the process, just a couple of inches for flavor and a little fat.
Salt pork is good too
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Old 07-19-2015, 12:57 PM
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I like canning everything fish, moose, deer
One word of warning if you have aluminum pressure cooker don't use it on a camp stove, I was canning some Jackfish on the back deck with my propane stove everything was working fine, the weight was rocking back and forth when all of a sudden the cooker fell off the stove on to the deck spraying hot liquid out through the vent on top and smashed all the jars inside. The steam and noise scared the crap out of me and my dog.
What happened was the aluminum softened from the direct heat and the pressure pushed out the bottom of the pot into a round shape until it rocked off the stove. I checked the instructions that came with the pot and sure enough not recommended for gas or propane stoves. sometimes it pays the read the directions first.
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Old 07-19-2015, 01:34 PM
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Another fan of canning venison.
I like to add beef bouillon and a few other ingredients. Also... I like the raw pack method.

http://cowgirlscountry.blogspot.com/...g-venison.html

I think home canned meats were the original "fast food".
A bit of a sidetrack....We now make our own bouillon each year. Actually its more like Demi glaze.
When we butcher, we save the bones and then roast them and added veggys and process 24hrs to make this. Uses much more of the animal ...less waste....disappoints the dogs though. We use it just like bouillon....but it's a lot better.

Thinking I'm going to go get a pressure canner and use this stuff with some older game meat.



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Old 07-19-2015, 01:37 PM
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My buddy in BC smokes sockeye then cans it.........OMG I could eat it till it squirts out my ears.
Not canned properly and it will be squirting, but not out your ears.

follow instructions.
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Old 07-20-2015, 05:33 PM
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A bit of a sidetrack....We now make our own bouillon each year. Actually its more like Demi glaze.
When we butcher, we save the bones and then roast them and added veggys and process 24hrs to make this. Uses much more of the animal ...less waste....disappoints the dogs though. We use it just like bouillon....but it's a lot better.

Thinking I'm going to go get a pressure canner and use this stuff with some older game meat.



BlackHeart, That looks and sounds delicious!!
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:05 PM
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Run your venison through a pressure cooker and it comes out great.
Add some spices to taste, a bit of onion on the bottom of the jar and it can be very tasty.
If you need , shoot me a pm and I can scrounge up the canning times. Off the top of my head I think its 90 minutes at 15 psi.
I know a guy who cans his moose meat. It was awesome. Never thought it would be that good until I tried it.
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Old 07-20-2015, 07:08 PM
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I bought an actual tin can canner years ago and just started using it. I am going to can up some of last years deer into tin cans for hunting this fall. I found out that Butchers and Packers in Edmonton carries the cans.
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Old 07-20-2015, 07:23 PM
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Ok I'm very new to the idea of canning. The last year I have been really wanting to try this. Mostly veg and fruits. I never even thought of meat before. When you guys say pressure canner! Is it specific for canning or will any pressure cooker work? I have a gas stove and would prefer one that isn't electric.
Is there something that I should be avoiding when purchasing? Or on the look for?
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Old 07-20-2015, 07:29 PM
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Canner not a cooker.

I've never used one on Gas so Can't help you there.

It's not rocket chemistry, heck they do it in Quebec, how hard can it be?

Follow the instructions with the unit and you'll be fine. Make sure you get the English directions and not the French.
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Old 07-20-2015, 08:21 PM
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http://www.allamericancanner.com/all...surecanner.htm


They sure look like a pressure cooker to me. Can someone explain the difference. Could you put a jar in the pressure cooker (assuming you could monitor pressure somehow) and achieve the same thing?
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They sure look like a pressure cooker to me. Can someone explain the difference. Could you put a jar in the pressure cooker (assuming you could monitor pressure somehow) and achieve the same thing?
I done a bunch a few years ago in my pressure cooker, it's a 10psi model. I'm still alive and kicken.
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Make sure you get the English directions and not the French.
I bought one at Canadian Tire.....the directions were in Chinese...
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Old 07-20-2015, 08:44 PM
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I bought one at Canadian Tire.....the directions were in Chinese...
Not surprising. You got the one for canning Chinese food.

did it come with the cookbook "25 Ways to WOK your dog and cat."
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They sure look like a pressure cooker to me. Can someone explain the difference. Could you put a jar in the pressure cooker (assuming you could monitor pressure somehow) and achieve the same thing?
If you could get the pressure up I expect it would work . Pretty small though. It would be like going hunting with one of Reeves' Pintos.
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Old 07-20-2015, 10:43 PM
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If you are buying a new pressure canner, look at the All American. Hard to beat with a stick!!
x100!!!

Prestos and the others (Mirro?) all use rubber/silicon gaskets to seal the lid of the pressure canner to the pot.

All American uses a pure metal on metal contact/gasket. They will literally never need to be replaced. Plus silicon can hold flavours and smells something fierce...

I can all my stew meat to free up room in the freezer (just have a little freezer.)
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If you could get the pressure up I expect it would work . Pretty small though. It would be like going hunting with one of Reeves' Pintos.
A pressure canner is just a big specialized pressure cooker. Most pressure cookers, though, don't get the lbs pressure high enough for AB elevations. The cooker I have (not canner) only goes to 8lbs.

The other downside is they are tiny! I feel like a dozen jars is a small amount for 4 hours of work. In a little cooker you would be lucky to get half that to fit.
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Old 07-21-2015, 04:05 AM
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Growing up, canning was a necessary part of life for my family.

We used both Pressure canning and water bath canning.

We used pressure canning for bacteria prone foods such a fish and to soften tough meats or fish bones. At Christmas time we used the pressure cooker/canner to make Suet Pudding. Wow was that stuff rich !

Water bath canning was used for Moose and Deer, and for jams and fruit preserves and for vegetables.
Most years we'd can from 400 to 600 quarts of food items. WIld meats, wild fruits, and garden vegitables.

For the most part we used the same recipes for both methods. Water bath took longer to cook and didn't tenderize as much as pressure but other then that and the tempertrures used, the two methods were nearly identical in every other aspect.

The big trick to canning to preserve meats ext. is knowing how long to cook and how to eliminate the opportunity for bacteria to enter once the cooking is done.
Other then that it was much like any other cooking. Relatively simple to do and to learn.

The cooking process is like any other for the most part but you have to keep in mind that the goal is to kill and keep out bacteria.

For Moose and Deer we used a very simple recipe.

Cut the meat into cubes around an inch across.
Mix salt and pepper and tumble meat in same.
Fill jars to just below the top, loosely place lid on each jar and cook.
When cooked, remove from heat, tighten lids and cool.

Sorry, I don't remember portions, temperatures or times used.

The Moose and Deer preserved this way was usually cooked again before serving. Again the recipe was simple.

Add a quart of meat to a large skillet, add one cut up onion, add two cut up boiled potatoes, or more if you like. Season to taste with salt and pepper and fry till vegetables are cooked. Serve.

You can't get better food then this.
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