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04-28-2019, 11:21 AM
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It’s not hard to get your education paid for. My daughter decided to scour the country for scholarships. Her first 2.5 years have been essentially paid for. And she’s just an average white bread student schlep.
I got 2 degrees by swinging a hammer and doing general construction while going to school.
Sorry.... it just isn’t that hard. All four of my kids will make it on their own merits, and get a little perspective on life as well.
Interesting vid. I’m with the dude... except for the ‘thank the corporations’ part. We historically made corporations to do big temporary projects. Now they cook our food, prep our meat, and do a lot of stuff we as people ought to be doing.
Corporations should only be allowed to exist for 10 years. Then go bye bye to preserve individual initiative and prevent monopolies.
Dude sounds like a paid pro corporation shill when he injects the ‘thank Monsanto garbage’.
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04-28-2019, 11:36 AM
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Great video
He should take sparkle socks to the woods for a little reality!
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04-28-2019, 12:38 PM
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What gives me hope is that our current crop of high school students might not follow the millennial path. I've grade 10 and 12 boys in the Edmonton Public system. It is amazing how many of their friends and classmates feel that the whole socialist agenda is killing our nation. My oldest (who is 18) and all his friends...he's quite the social butterfly and has a lot of them...all went out together as a group to vote conservative last week.
There just may be a glimmer of hope.
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04-28-2019, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Trochu
And we're almost back to the $5,321.00/year I originally stated in post No. 3.
I've never had a kid at U of A, I went through myself not that long ago. If they aren't a student though, they aren't student costs are they. I don't go to France in the summer between semesters and write it off as a student expense. Not sure why you're arguing this so vemently, it can be done with a bit of hard work. I did it, co-worker did it, PG's son essentially did it, 7mm friend's sons did it....
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Weedy's numbers are accurate. I've had 2 kids (a Nurse and Engineer) graduate from U of A within the last five years and it his numbers are about right. The books add a lot and the problem we found was they always weren't good from year to year so you had to buy new.
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04-28-2019, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bobtodrick
What gives me hope is that our current crop of high school students might not follow the millennial path. I've grade 10 and 12 boys in the Edmonton Public system. It is amazing how many of their friends and classmates feel that the whole socialist agenda is killing our nation. My oldest (who is 18) and all his friends...he's quite the social butterfly and has a lot of them...all went out together as a group to vote conservative last week.
There just may be a glimmer of hope.
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I vote this the most encouraging post of the day.
I always tell kids, if you don't know what you want to do, pick something at NAIT or SAIT and you will come out in 2 years with a marketable skill and most likely a job. Get some life experience then decide if you want to pursue more studies. If you have top marks and want to be a doctor, lawyer, dentist or engineer go to University. Disclosure, I have been through NAIT and UofA . What I like about NAIT is that their instructors have real work experience and some are required to keep up their work experience in industry. I blame a lot of parents and teachers for supporting/encouraging kids to study tiddly winks at University. Our entire school system needs a reboot, 12 years of education and kids have no marketable skills. Very expensive baby sitting service.
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04-28-2019, 02:28 PM
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04-28-2019, 02:34 PM
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That’s hilarious!
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04-28-2019, 03:07 PM
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That is flippin priceless. I sent that link to a whole bunch of people.
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04-28-2019, 03:24 PM
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I vote this the most encouraging post of the day.
I always tell kids, if you don't know what you want to do, pick something at NAIT or SAIT and you will come out in 2 years with a marketable skill and most likely a job. Get some life experience then decide if you want to pursue more studies. If you have top marks and want to be a doctor, lawyer, dentist or engineer go to University. Disclosure, I have been through NAIT and UofA . What I like about NAIT is that their instructors have real work experience and some are required to keep up their work experience in industry. I blame a lot of parents and teachers for supporting/encouraging kids to study tiddly winks at University. Our entire school system needs a reboot, 12 years of education and kids have no marketable skills. Very expensive baby sitting service.
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You are bang on Traderal! Countless millions are wasted on university degrees which serve no real purpose other than to gather dust. I have always encouraged students (and parents) to head toward Nait for two years and at worst leave with a marketable skill set in your back pocket. In fact, I am pointing my gr 10 son in that direction now. He's a smart cookie, but has no idea what he wants to do, so time to start picking which career training program at NAIT he may be interested in. I earn my living with my degree, but if I could do it all over, this teacher would be hauling his arse toward NAIT not U of A. University is great if you have your laser focused sights set on a specific career like dentistry, law, medicine or engineering, but if not, you'd be better to hold a flag on a work crew and figure out what you want to do.
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04-28-2019, 03:31 PM
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That is a very good video.
BUT, don't blame the kids. Our generation is the one who has created, accepted, and/or tolerated much of the BS that leads many young folks to expect the world to be their oyster with a bow-tied cherry lollipop on the side.
All is not lost people. They too will grow up. May take them a little longer, but they will get there. That's a fact.
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04-29-2019, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bobtodrick
What gives me hope is that our current crop of high school students might not follow the millennial path. I've grade 10 and 12 boys in the Edmonton Public system. It is amazing how many of their friends and classmates feel that the whole socialist agenda is killing our nation. My oldest (who is 18) and all his friends...he's quite the social butterfly and has a lot of them...all went out together as a group to vote conservative last week.
There just may be a glimmer of hope.
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It's true that there are still a few bright lights that dwell within the darkness...
https://youtu.be/70hb9qRaoPk
Last edited by ReconWilly; 04-29-2019 at 05:06 PM.
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04-29-2019, 05:15 PM
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As someone who graduated with a master's degree in the last few years, it's pretty difficult to graduate without a single penny in student debt. I shovelled concrete every summer and still managed to come out with some debt. With that being said, those graduating with four year degrees with $75k+ in student debt simply didn't use the resources available to them.
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04-29-2019, 06:21 PM
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Student debt in Canada is about 28 billion and 1.5 trillion in the US.
I listen to a talk show on the radio with Dave Ramsey (Money Matters), one student of music in the US ended up with 370 thousand student fees and was working as a waiter.
When I entered UofA I had $50 in my pocket and when graduated owed 1200 in loans.
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