Quiver- reduce torque?

[imer]

Any suggestions on a 4-6 arrow quiver (1or2 piece) that will reduce the torque on my pse bow madness mc? I made the mistake already of buying a cheap $35 quiver (it just holds arrows, how much diff can their be?). Then I put it on my new bow and wham, super torque that I can't live with.

I am sure I will get the reply of tight spot for a quiver however I am not looking to spend over $100 on a quiver. Ideal would be 50 to 75.


Suggestions please!

[CNP]

So you bought a quiver, an economical one, and you believe that the quiver induces torque. I don't know what quiver it is you have on the bow but I would bet that it is not just the quiver that is causing torque. All quivers will create an imbalance on your bow because they all add wight to one side. I would say your grip is causing you more grief than the quiver and changing quivers is not going to solve your problem. Just to be sure, go to a pro shop and try another quiver. On another note, you may not want to hear this one either, but why shoot with your quiver on your bow? In a tree stand my quiver hangs on a hook. While spot and stalk hunting my quiver is attached to my pack........the bow is heavy enough as it is.....I find that having my quiver attached to my bow has more cons than pros.....so off it comes. It carries arrows good.....but it doesn't have to be attached to my bow to do that. If you buy a two piece you'll feel that you have to use it, 'cause otherwise it's useless.

[imer]

when i got my new bow i shot it without the quiver for a period of time. the bow balanced great and my groupings were great.

then I decided to put on the quiver to shoot as i would in the field (I mainly spot and stalk, sometime in a blind and the least would be tree stand) and I was not able to keep the bow balance unless I gripped the handle. When I got a new sight mounted at jimbows we did a little shooting (without quiver) and Joe gave me some good pointers on my positioning my hand on the grip (not gripping it but open handed).

So with a open hand and the grip balancing in my hand it is perfect until I throw on the quiver. if i use the same technique the quiver throws the bow to the left (quiver is on left side, i am left handed) about 25 degrees from being balanced and level. it is very dramatic. I showed a friend of mine that comparison and he was very surprised to how it could torque it that much.

I agree that not having the quiver on the bow is ideal and I can do that in a tree stand and blind no problem. but I am not sure how well it works having the quiver off the bow when stalking? dont you find it gets caught on brush and trees etc?

appreciate the feedback- and good point on the 2 piece. I agree that 1 piece makes the most sense.

[Stinky Coyote]

weird, me personally that bow would be for sale if it canted that much with a quiver on it, i like my axcel sight right now on my mathews mr7 with fixed two piece 7 arrow, i just adjust the sight level so the pins will follow the path of the arrow drop with gravity, mine sure isn't 25 degrees off however, maybe a few a most, a little cant is no biggie if your sight can be adjusted to level at your draw, the arrow only goes down with gravity so as long as the sight is level then your good to go but 25 degrees sounds rediculous....for sale

i tried the detacheable quivers, hate them, have shot fixed two piece from day one, mathews legacy and switchback xt fixed two piece 5 arrow, mathews monster xlr8 fixed 5 or fixed 7, and now the mathews mr7 with fixed two piece 7....i like that my arrows can be no where else, i like that they are stiff, my hand naturally goes to the bottom rubber to pop and arrow, i can lay the bow down on arrow side and things are rigid you could put weight on it while hand over hand stalking etc. if you have too, its not wobbling and twangy etc., i like the added rigidity of the two piece etc.

and watch the mule deer episod of i think it was hunting canada and beyond when the one friend stalked a whale of a muley, crossed a barbwire fence to go a few more yards for the shot and left quiver there only taking one arrow....ha ha, missed, deer busted out a few yards and gave him a couple minutes of perfect broadside while he held his you know what in his hand...yup, thats real hunting alright...fixed two piece quivers are important decision imo, important enough that the bow manufacturer better have well developed and tight to the bow accessories like that to get my attention....those quivers keep me brand loyal almost as much as their leading edge bows do!

something wrong with that bow period, to short of axle to axle or what i dunno if it cants 25 degrees with a quiver on it....i go so far as to practice using my quiver also, pop the arrow back in while coming back from the target so you get conditioned to load from the quiver, shoot with quiver on etc. you don't know any different....so when all heck breaks loose your sub-conscious can 'get'r'done'....quickly

shoot how your gonna hunt, its the only way to do it, wobbly one piece detach quivers suck, they stick out too far, not one positive thing i can say about them...they are just wrong

[jim-bo]

It is not uncommon for this to happen, especially when the bow is incredibly top heavy and this is comounded via a cheap heavy quiver. One thing you may want to try is perhaps a 2-pc with a lower mounting profile, try to get a 5 arrow or less. I have a 5 arrow on mine that usually totes only 3, but 5 when I am going a ways or for a while.

There are also other options such as hip/back quivers, packs with quiver attachments, etc...

I have several friends who remove their quivers before a stalk, leave it by the fence post or lay it beside where they are shooting. If I am with them they usually hand me the quiver and take a spare arrow...

Try a few options, find what works best... if you can't find anything, many hunters do shoot without quivers.