Need some advice on value of a couple guns

[treeroot]

I might be looking to sell a couple guns because another gun has come up that I want. I really don't know what to ask because prices vary a lot when I try to look at what the same guns are being listed for. Any advice would be appreciated. I'm not 100% sure I'm selling one or both of them, but if I list them I just want to ask a fair price


First
Left hand browning xbolt all weather stainless in 7mm mag. Gun is in great shape, no marks. Fired about 200-250 rounds I would estimate. Browning no longer makes this model. It would come with Burris opti lock rings/bases, but no scope.

Same gun as in this link https://bluebookofgunvalues.com/prod...ther-left-hand


Second
JM stamped Marlin 45/70 1895G. Has cross bolt safety and the hammer safety. Beautiful shape, not a mark on the gun. I'm second owner, but first owner only shot it a handful of times before it sat in the safe until I got it. I've shot about 150 rounds out of it max.

[Apatrickson]

I cant speak on the Marlin, but in my experience used X-bolts are generally worth in the 1200-1500 range. I'm a right handed shooter so I'm not sure if the left handedness brings the value up or down or stays the same. Its a beautiful rifle, and I could be way out to lunch, but I've bought and sold all my used brownings at 1100-1400

[W921]

Originally Posted by treeroot

I might be looking to sell a couple guns because another gun has come up that I want. I really don't know what to ask because prices vary a lot when I try to look at what the same guns are being listed for. Any advice would be appreciated. I'm not 100% sure I'm selling one or both of them, but if I list them I just want to ask a fair price


First
Left hand browning xbolt all weather stainless in 7mm mag. Gun is in great shape, no marks. Fired about 200-250 rounds I would estimate. Browning no longer makes this model. It would come with Burris opti lock rings/bases, but no scope.

Same gun as in this link https://bluebookofgunvalues.com/prod...ther-left-hand


Second
JM stamped Marlin 45/70 1895G. Has cross bolt safety and the hammer safety. Beautiful shape, not a mark on the gun. I'm second owner, but first owner only shot it a handful of times before it sat in the safe until I got it. I've shot about 150 rounds out of it max.

I have a jm marlin without a crossbows safety. It has a Lyman steel receiver sight, expensive custom scabbard, ammo for it, proven super accurate rifle, etc listed here for $1800.

[Dean2]

Remington bought Marlin in December 2007. The Marlin Equipment was so worn out that Remington eventually shut down the Gardner plant at the end of 2008 and in early 2010 finally closed the North Haven plant for the same reason. Both of the old plants were turning out poor to very poor quality guns and Remington was getting the blame for the substandard quality of the "New Remlin" Marlin levers. Remington completely retooled with all new machines, new employees and CNC technology, setting up the new production in Illinois. After that move, the Marlins produced with the MR leading in the serial numbers were markedly better guns and on par with the old JM guns from pre 2000. I own both and have owned a lot of Marlin levers. You do not want to buy a Marlin made between 2000 and 2010 (and only 2010s that are post MR prefix as some 2010s were still made in New Haven) if you can help it.

The later built Remington made ones are MUCH better guns than the Marlin built JMs that were built the last 5 or so years, so basically 2000 to 2007, that Marlin was running out of money and approaching bankruptcy. They are also head and shoulders better than the ones that were built the first 3 years Remington owned them and was trying to build the guns with the old Marlin employees on clapped out machinery.

So, I would use the serial number to date that JM Marlin and include the above info in the sale advertisement. If it was built before 1998, and is pristine as described, you should be able to get around 2000 for it in 45-70, 1800 or so in 444. If it was built between 2000 and 2010, with the JM stamp, a knowledgeable buyer is not going to buy it unless they can test shoot and cycle it. Even then, it is worth maybe 1000 bucks.

Starting in 1973, the year of manufacture can be determined by subtracting the first two digits of the serial number from 100:
Example: SN 2512345 would have been made in 1975 [100 - 25 = 75] and SN 94365295 would have been made in 2006 [ 100 - 94 = 06 (2006)

(Serial numbers work different after 2010 when Remington had them and coded them MR versus JM).

Hope this helps.

[W921]

I think the elephant in the room with jm marlins is some have that cross bolt safety.
I know it's easy to take it off but then you have two big holes in your receiver.
I know guys use plastic plugs for the holes but now you have plastic plugs on your classic lever action rifle.
There probably are different solutions to getting rid of these cross bolt safeties. My solution would be not to buy an exposed hammer lever action rifle with a cross bolt safety on it.
But a cross bolt safety in my opinion would definitely affect the price of a jm if I was buying one.

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by W921

I think the elephant in the room with jm marlins is some have that cross bolt safety.
I know it's easy to take it off but then you have two big holes in your receiver.
I know guys use plastic plugs for the holes but now you have plastic plugs on your classic lever action rifle.
There probably are different solutions to getting rid of these cross bolt safeties. My solution would be not to buy an exposed hammer lever action rifle with a cross bolt safety on it.
But a cross bolt safety in my opinion would definitely affect the price of a jm if I was buying one.

Well, that is going to be really hard to come by and to me is a spurious argument with respect to value. Marlin started putting the cross bolt safety on the 1895 in 1983. There were a ton of guns made after that, likely far more than were made without the cross bolt.

The cross bolt safety never has to be used if you don't want to, the half cock safety is still there. You can also buy a delete kit that completely removes it and fills the holes for about 20 bucks from multiple makers. Unless you knew them intimately you would never know a deleted gun had had a cross bolt safety.

Tell me which screw doesn't belong. Which one filled the cross bolt safety spot?



https://beartoothmercantile.com/basi...-marlin-rifle/

https://rangerpointstore.com/marlin-...y-delete-black

[Coiloil37]

Deleting a safety isn’t hard or expensive. I did on my trapper in a matter of minutes.







My 336’s are pre safety

[W921]

That beartooth safety delete is an attractive kit that I haven't seen before. Definitely worth the 20 American plus whatever it costs to import.
Do the newer crossbolt marlins have rebounding hammer? I can't remember. What is trigger pull like because the original marlins had a really good trigger.
Anyway the original pre crossbolt marlins don't have safety warnings or operating manuals engraved or stamped into the barrels. To me a gun without lawyer warnings engraved into it are worth more.
I had a crossbolt safety jm 45/70 and the magazine spring would coil over itself if you put more than three or 4 shells in the magazine. Only way to fix was to take gun a part.
I had another cross bolt safety jm 444. This one the sighs on barrel were not level because the barrel was screwed to deep into the receiver.
These two guns finished my interest in newer than crossbolt safety marlins