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11-15-2024, 04:25 PM
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Tool security
My shop was just broken into and they cleaned out my high dollar cordless tools plus a welder string trimmers and a bunch of fuel. Does anyone have any ideas about securing these items to make them harder to take? Jobox? Locking suggestions? Booby traps? Good place to bury a body? Etc?
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11-15-2024, 04:30 PM
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Sucks to hear. Sorry it happened.
I did think the thread was about government bodyguards though.
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11-15-2024, 04:55 PM
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Best is to capture a couple of them.
Close the shop for a couple days while you try each of the new tools out.....
Pieces should be small enough to just toss out the window on a nice drive
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11-15-2024, 05:05 PM
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Sorry to hear about that, Keeks 😕
We use a 20' Shipping Container, with a heavy-duty commercial-grade
shipping container Lock (protected by a heavy gauge steel lock-box).
It's like this one . . .
Seven + years, and it's Never been broken into ❗
It's well-worth the $ involved.
Selkirk
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11-15-2024, 05:52 PM
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Here in the City the large framing crews use the small shipping containers. Then park the zoom boom blocking the door. Thieves just cut open the exposed side with a cut off wheel.
Nothing is really theft proof. Sure big metal box bolted down with another metal box inside but at what point does this become practical?
Do your best to make it hard to get in to begin with. Maybe a train horn for an alarm? 4 hungry dogs maybe but again is it worth the time.
In the end it’s why we have insurance.
One framing crew puts the shipping container on the zoom boom and stores it up as high as it will go. Now that might actually work.
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11-15-2024, 08:16 PM
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Be a touch cautious when replacing items, criminals are starting to get a touch of the smarts.
We've has construction c-cans and job shacks broken into and all of our tools stolen then coincidently re broken into approx. a month later once they know you've replaced everything with brand new items
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11-15-2024, 08:20 PM
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Hey Keeks, We have a burning coal seam north of Elkford. Whatever you throw in there comes out as smoke(only) hint hint hint.
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11-15-2024, 08:51 PM
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11-15-2024, 09:16 PM
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50 cal! lockandload! Manned24 7!!
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11-15-2024, 09:44 PM
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Now days when a thief sees a shipping container they see a gold mine. Thieves know people buy them to store their valuables. With a cutting torch they're in in no time..
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11-16-2024, 08:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tungsten,
Here in the City the large framing crews use the small shipping containers. Then park the zoom boom blocking the door. Thieves just cut open the exposed side with a cut off wheel.
Nothing is really theft proof. Sure big metal box bolted down with another metal box inside but at what point does this become practical?
Do your best to make it hard to get in to begin with. Maybe a train horn for an alarm? 4 hungry dogs maybe but again is it worth the time.
In the end it’s why we have insurance.
One framing crew puts the shipping container on the zoom boom and stores it up as high as it will go. Now that might actually work.
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Yeah but after the second, third or fourth time your rates skyrocket (if they will still insure you) - then what? Sorry but that statement irks me. We all end up paying more for insurance with ever tightening conditions because the insurance companies still want to (and will) post record profits
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11-16-2024, 09:17 AM
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With the availability and proliferation of cordless power tools, shipping containers and lock boxes are hardly a deterrent anymore.
Our range had the lock cans and locks zip disked off in a pretty low tech attack.
Making it appear as if someone is around, or making it so that there’s no way of patterning if anyone is around is by far the best deterrent. IMO
The next best thing you can hope for is to make accessing your property look hard enough that the thieves go to the next easiest target.
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11-16-2024, 09:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick284
With the availability and proliferation of cordless power tools, shipping containers and lock boxes are hardly a deterrent anymore.
Our range had the lock cans and locks zip disked off in a pretty low tech attack.
Making it appear as if someone is around, or making it so that there’s no way of patterning if anyone is around is by far the best deterrent. IMO
The next best thing you can hope for is to make accessing your property look hard enough that the thieves go to the next easiest target.
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We had one issue at the range, before we installed cameras and motion activated lights. The electric gate also helps to keep people from driving onto our property.
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11-16-2024, 10:36 AM
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If the yard is fenced, get some big dogs, that bark at movement. They’ll move onto an easier target.
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11-16-2024, 03:57 PM
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If you've seen how fast a cordless cold saw can cut through one of those seacan walls, you'd realize why things aren't secure anymore. 2-3x as fast as acetylene.
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11-17-2024, 06:35 AM
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Unfortunately there are no real deterents to thieves short of armed guards 24/7. If you have assets worth their time, eventually thieves will rob you. They understand that if caught there is little to no consequences. The more they steal, the better they get at it. Cordless tools are a prime target as many of them make thievery easier. Until the current government is tossed and the justice system is largely overhauled it won't change for the better. Video surveillance doesn't help because police don't even want to see it.
It will take nothing short of violent vigilantism to make thieves think twice. I don't advocate that but sooner or later it will happen.
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11-17-2024, 11:34 AM
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We had our can broken into this summer, zoom boom was parked up against doors, and boom over the top. Bastards hot wired a front end loader from the ground work site just down the rd and processed to push the back end of the zoom boom and twisted it away from the doors. Tooth bucket punctured the tires so they were un repairable. They got away with an old jenny and a couple of cordless saws. Lucky we have been moving sites and the can was basically empty. But the tire repairs made up for what would have been a tool replacements. It’s not worth running up the insurance bill for tool replacement, only going to get a depreciated value for them.
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11-17-2024, 01:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Selkirk
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Sorry to hear about that, Keeks 😕
We use a 20' Shipping Container, with a heavy-duty commercial-grade
shipping container Lock (protected by a heavy gauge steel lock-box).
It's like this one . . .
Seven + years, and it's Never been broken into ❗
It's well-worth the $ involved.
Selkirk
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Of course, I couldn't agree more with the many comments above ⬆. A shipping container (a.k.a. SeaCan),
left out in a Bad/Unsecured location ... is Gonna Get Broken Into ❗
As with any security device (or structure), the need for a Good/Secured location is a 'Given'.
O & O,
Selkirk
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11-17-2024, 01:35 PM
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Depending on the size of the tool, or if the cordless tool is in a tool box, could an Apple Air tag work? It would be very easy to then follow it to where the rest of the tools are from the break in.
You really have to melt the company name into the plastic housing of the tool to deter the pawn shops from taking the tool from the thief.
Problem is, alot of sub contractors came from Jail, and are using tools they bought for cheap or stole from the competition.
Alot of the staff on Job sites have a criminal background, and have no loyalty to their employer either.
But some sort of tracker would take down the more repetitive thieves who may have a big stockpile of stolen goods they are waiting to move.
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11-17-2024, 11:29 PM
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I’m in a polar bear camp,right now and they’re using radar to lock onto and track bears. The techies are saying that the next step is to lock onto the bears and use deterrents to move them into safe zones. This technology was developed mostly for protecting military bases. It’s getting easier to buy and use.. sometime soon it’ll be able to,lock onto a human and zap them with “whatever.” The ultimate boogie trap.
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