Unapologetically Conservative

[Twisted Canuck]

Originally Posted by Strait Shooter

4. Freedom of Parents to Make Decisions Concerning the Health, Education, Welfare and Upbringing of their Children;

Super fantastic, this one allows the religious sh*t-birds the freedom to deny medical intervention to their children that could easily save their lives.

"Oh, that will never happen!"

March 2013: Ryan Lovett, 7, of Calgary dies after getting strep throat. Police have alleged his mother chose to treat the infection with alternative medicines instead of taking him to a doctor. Tamara Lovett is charged with criminal negligence causing death and failing to provide the necessities of life. The allegations have not been proven in court. A jury trial is to begin in November.

December 2006: Shatoya Chatelaine, 17 months, dies in Saskatoon after getting the skin infection impetigo around her mouth. A doctor who saw the baby during a home visit several days earlier had advised her mother to take the child to an emergency room. After the baby dies, it's discovered she was also covered in bruises and had broken ribs. Charissma McDonald tells police she didn't take the baby to a hospital because she worried social workers would apprehend the baby and her older children. McDonald pleads guilty to criminal negligence causing death and is sentenced to two years in jail.

September 1987: Lorie Atikian, 17 months, dies of malnutrition and pneumonia in Toronto. Her parents fed and cared for her based on the advice of an herbalist. Court heard that as the girl withered away, the herbalist told the couple not to take the child to a doctor. A jury convicts Sonia and Khachadour Atikian of failing to provide the necessities of life, but a new trial is ordered on appeal. The charges are eventually dismissed.

October 1981: Christopher Tutton, 5, dies in Ontario after his parents take him off insulin. Several doctors had warned the religious couple not to, but they believed he had been miraculously cured of diabetes. A jury in Kitchener convicts Carole and Arthur Tutton of manslaughter, but a second trial is ordered on appeal and that ruling is upheld by the Supreme Court. The Crown does not retry the case.

September 1964: Bonnie Deabay, 5, dies in New Brunswick of an infection from a cut lip that her mother treated with home remedies. An autopsy reveals the infection caused the girl's death. It spread over several weeks -- destroying one side of her lip, extending up the side of her face, down her neck and into her chest. Bonnie had also suffered other injuries. Her mother and father, Glenna and Omar Deabay, are charged with criminal negligence causing death. A jury acquits them at trial.

Right, because bad things only happen to kids with religious parents.

[BuckCuller]

Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck

Right, because bad things only happen to kids with religious parents.

Yeh talk about a reach. I don’t see anything in his list of five that even says all of those people are religious. Nut bars come in all stripes not just Christian’s.

[BuckCuller]

Originally Posted by Strait Shooter

4. Freedom of Parents to Make Decisions Concerning the Health, Education, Welfare and Upbringing of their Children;

Super fantastic, this one allows the religious sh*t-birds the freedom to deny medical intervention to their children that could easily save their lives.

"Oh, that will never happen!"

March 2013: Ryan Lovett, 7, of Calgary dies after getting strep throat. Police have alleged his mother chose to treat the infection with alternative medicines instead of taking him to a doctor. Tamara Lovett is charged with criminal negligence causing death and failing to provide the necessities of life. The allegations have not been proven in court. A jury trial is to begin in November.

December 2006: Shatoya Chatelaine, 17 months, dies in Saskatoon after getting the skin infection impetigo around her mouth. A doctor who saw the baby during a home visit several days earlier had advised her mother to take the child to an emergency room. After the baby dies, it's discovered she was also covered in bruises and had broken ribs. Charissma McDonald tells police she didn't take the baby to a hospital because she worried social workers would apprehend the baby and her older children. McDonald pleads guilty to criminal negligence causing death and is sentenced to two years in jail.

September 1987: Lorie Atikian, 17 months, dies of malnutrition and pneumonia in Toronto. Her parents fed and cared for her based on the advice of an herbalist. Court heard that as the girl withered away, the herbalist told the couple not to take the child to a doctor. A jury convicts Sonia and Khachadour Atikian of failing to provide the necessities of life, but a new trial is ordered on appeal. The charges are eventually dismissed.

October 1981: Christopher Tutton, 5, dies in Ontario after his parents take him off insulin. Several doctors had warned the religious couple not to, but they believed he had been miraculously cured of diabetes. A jury in Kitchener convicts Carole and Arthur Tutton of manslaughter, but a second trial is ordered on appeal and that ruling is upheld by the Supreme Court. The Crown does not retry the case.

September 1964: Bonnie Deabay, 5, dies in New Brunswick of an infection from a cut lip that her mother treated with home remedies. An autopsy reveals the infection caused the girl's death. It spread over several weeks -- destroying one side of her lip, extending up the side of her face, down her neck and into her chest. Bonnie had also suffered other injuries. Her mother and father, Glenna and Omar Deabay, are charged with criminal negligence causing death. A jury acquits them at trial.

There are still laws for child abuse, you do know this right?

[Pathfinder76]

I also know several Christians that are dr’s. And have kids.

[slough shark]

So you imply that it’s religious folks who are causing all these deaths of children then you go ahead and provide several example most of which are not religious… your bias is showing, using your own examples of parents who made poor decisions that resulted in the deaths of a child one could just as easily made the comment suggesting it was secular s**tbirds causing children to die. Religion usually isn’t what’s causing these problems, there are many external influences that can cause these things to happen. If one were to look at the actual numbers kids raised in the church likely have a better outcome for thriving in life vs those who weren’t, of course there are many factors but if I were a betting man bare minimum establishing an external moral standard isn’t a bad thing. In fact without knowing you just a few statements you made I would probably think you went to church when you were younger but ended up turning away from the church, you probably also think you are doing ok in life so my statement about being raised in the church still stands even if you detest and blame it for things.

Originally Posted by Strait Shooter

4. Freedom of Parents to Make Decisions Concerning the Health, Education, Welfare and Upbringing of their Children;

Super fantastic, this one allows the religious sh*t-birds the freedom to deny medical intervention to their children that could easily save their lives.

"Oh, that will never happen!"

March 2013: Ryan Lovett, 7, of Calgary dies after getting strep throat. Police have alleged his mother chose to treat the infection with alternative medicines instead of taking him to a doctor. Tamara Lovett is charged with criminal negligence causing death and failing to provide the necessities of life. The allegations have not been proven in court. A jury trial is to begin in November.

December 2006: Shatoya Chatelaine, 17 months, dies in Saskatoon after getting the skin infection impetigo around her mouth. A doctor who saw the baby during a home visit several days earlier had advised her mother to take the child to an emergency room. After the baby dies, it's discovered she was also covered in bruises and had broken ribs. Charissma McDonald tells police she didn't take the baby to a hospital because she worried social workers would apprehend the baby and her older children. McDonald pleads guilty to criminal negligence causing death and is sentenced to two years in jail.

September 1987: Lorie Atikian, 17 months, dies of malnutrition and pneumonia in Toronto. Her parents fed and cared for her based on the advice of an herbalist. Court heard that as the girl withered away, the herbalist told the couple not to take the child to a doctor. A jury convicts Sonia and Khachadour Atikian of failing to provide the necessities of life, but a new trial is ordered on appeal. The charges are eventually dismissed.

October 1981: Christopher Tutton, 5, dies in Ontario after his parents take him off insulin. Several doctors had warned the religious couple not to, but they believed he had been miraculously cured of diabetes. A jury in Kitchener convicts Carole and Arthur Tutton of manslaughter, but a second trial is ordered on appeal and that ruling is upheld by the Supreme Court. The Crown does not retry the case.

September 1964: Bonnie Deabay, 5, dies in New Brunswick of an infection from a cut lip that her mother treated with home remedies. An autopsy reveals the infection caused the girl's death. It spread over several weeks -- destroying one side of her lip, extending up the side of her face, down her neck and into her chest. Bonnie had also suffered other injuries. Her mother and father, Glenna and Omar Deabay, are charged with criminal negligence causing death. A jury acquits them at trial.

[Stinky Buffalo]

Keep it on track, everyone... We are starting to stray here...

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by Strait Shooter

4. Freedom of Parents to Make Decisions Concerning the Health, Education, Welfare and Upbringing of their Children;

Super fantastic, this one allows the religious sh*t-birds the freedom to deny medical intervention to their children that could easily save their lives.

"Oh, that will never happen!"

March 2013: Ryan Lovett, 7, of Calgary dies after getting strep throat. Police have alleged his mother chose to treat the infection with alternative medicines instead of taking him to a doctor. Tamara Lovett is charged with criminal negligence causing death and failing to provide the necessities of life. The allegations have not been proven in court. A jury trial is to begin in November.

December 2006: Shatoya Chatelaine, 17 months, dies in Saskatoon after getting the skin infection impetigo around her mouth. A doctor who saw the baby during a home visit several days earlier had advised her mother to take the child to an emergency room. After the baby dies, it's discovered she was also covered in bruises and had broken ribs. Charissma McDonald tells police she didn't take the baby to a hospital because she worried social workers would apprehend the baby and her older children. McDonald pleads guilty to criminal negligence causing death and is sentenced to two years in jail.

September 1987: Lorie Atikian, 17 months, dies of malnutrition and pneumonia in Toronto. Her parents fed and cared for her based on the advice of an herbalist. Court heard that as the girl withered away, the herbalist told the couple not to take the child to a doctor. A jury convicts Sonia and Khachadour Atikian of failing to provide the necessities of life, but a new trial is ordered on appeal. The charges are eventually dismissed.

October 1981: Christopher Tutton, 5, dies in Ontario after his parents take him off insulin. Several doctors had warned the religious couple not to, but they believed he had been miraculously cured of diabetes. A jury in Kitchener convicts Carole and Arthur Tutton of manslaughter, but a second trial is ordered on appeal and that ruling is upheld by the Supreme Court. The Crown does not retry the case.

September 1964: Bonnie Deabay, 5, dies in New Brunswick of an infection from a cut lip that her mother treated with home remedies. An autopsy reveals the infection caused the girl's death. It spread over several weeks -- destroying one side of her lip, extending up the side of her face, down her neck and into her chest. Bonnie had also suffered other injuries. Her mother and father, Glenna and Omar Deabay, are charged with criminal negligence causing death. A jury acquits them at trial.

5 incidents since 1964, which at the most can only be tied to a perverted versions of someones twisted religion and you want to take parenting rights away from everyone. Guess you'd rather a bunch of sick sexually perverted deviants and creeps indoctrinate entire classrooms and whole generations of children into perversion at an age they should be playing hopscotch. Guess we all know where your morals and head are at. Grow up. Praying your kids don't need your protection from creeps and sexual predators one day because you won't be much good to them. In fact you would be culpable through dereliction of parental duty.

[traderal]

5 incidents. Now search for how many die in Canada from medical malpractice yearly, thousands.
The statistics are alarming. Every year, about 28,000 Canadians die due to medical mistakes. Those fatality numbers, believed to be conservative, rank just behind heart disease and cancer. Medical errors also injure tens of thousands more.
How does that sit with you straight shooter, or you would choose to dismiss these stats.

[Stinky Buffalo]

Was anyone here at the convention?

Can anyone verify that these were handed out at the convention?

[Savage Bacon]

Originally Posted by Stinky Buffalo

Was anyone here at the convention?

Can anyone verify that these were handed out at the convention?

Yes they were handed out by Muslim women

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