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12-13-2020, 10:59 AM
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Nice finish to a terrible experience! I hit one unknowingly in the hollow many years ago and tracked it the next day for hours until I lost sign. A week later I found him in the same spot I shot at him earlier and took him down. Now the bad part is he was all gangrened up from the wound and would have died soon enough. Luckily F&W issued me a new tag after surrendering it over. I ended up with a bigger buck too!
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12-13-2020, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by coolpool
Nice finish to a terrible experience! I hit one unknowingly in the hollow many years ago and tracked it the next day for hours until I lost sign. A week later I found him in the same spot I shot at him earlier and took him down. Now the bad part is he was all gangrened up from the wound and would have died soon enough. Luckily F&W issued me a new tag after surrendering it over. I ended up with a bigger buck too!
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This is just plain wrong. No way a person should be allowed to shoot two and then have the freedom to brag about it.
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12-13-2020, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pitw
This is just plain wrong. No way a person should be allowed to shoot two and then have the freedom to brag about it.
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...he shot a deer that was just plain not edible...legally reported it and was issued another tag...nothing wrong with that...the F&W officers made that decision based upon the facts/information provided.
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12-13-2020, 03:05 PM
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Coolpool Wrong in 2 many ways .
I would have gladly tagged the one i wounded and just been happy I finished the job ! To go get another tag was soooo wrong . Learn how to do it right the first time . Never brag about your shortcomings! DISAPPOINTED TO READ THIS POST .
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12-13-2020, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by elkchaser
I would have gladly tagged the one i wounded and just been happy I finished the job ! To go get another tag was soooo wrong . Learn how to do it right the first time . Never brag about your shortcomings! DISAPPOINTED TO READ THIS POST .
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jeepers he was not bragging just bringing up a point of frustration etc that he went through like the OP did in not getting the deer, fortunately he came across it later, shot it with the intentions of eating it but discovered how messed up it was so took it to the F&W in which they made the decision to issue another tag...perhaps the area hunted is a high collision area and has a lot of deer...either way it was legally done.
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12-13-2020, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 58thecat
...he shot a deer that was just plain not edible...legally reported it and was issued another tag...nothing wrong with that...the F&W officers made that decision based upon the facts/information provided.
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He admitted to shooting and following the first deer. I guess you and I see things a mite different.
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12-13-2020, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pitw
He admitted to shooting and following the first deer. I guess you and I see things a mite different.
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yes and tracked it the next day too, lost it, a week later the same deer shows up so he takes it with the intentions of tagging it and eating it but the meat was not edible....legally reported it and the F&W made a decision to issue another tag.
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12-13-2020, 04:44 PM
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Don’t think a guy should get another tag for shooting a deer that was deemed inedible because he wounded it a week before. Good on him for finishing what he started but because it was his actions even though an accident that deemed it inedible
Personal ethics and I just would not feel right getting another tag
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12-13-2020, 05:55 PM
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What if another hunter ended up shooting that buck and the meat was inedible? Took it to F & W, and issued a new tag? same result, no? I think F&W made the right call in issuing another tag due to inedible meat. Isn't the meat what we are hunting for? I doubt this happens very often in a year. Way more deer/wildlife are poached in one night than F&W issue another tag due to inedible meat...
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12-13-2020, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CDNOutdoorsman
What if another hunter ended up shooting that buck and the meat was inedible? Took it to F & W, and issued a new tag? same result, no? I think F&W made the right call in issuing another tag due to inedible meat. Isn't the meat what we are hunting for? I doubt this happens very often in a year. Way more deer/wildlife are poached in one night than F&W issue another tag due to inedible meat...
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Again personal ethics I could not go get a new tag do to meat loss over a bad shot I made a week earlier. I would be happy I finished what I started but would not feel I had the right to another tag because of my own mistake causing meat loss.
Just would not feel right and my family loves deer meat. It’s personal pride I take in the hunt and respect for the animals I hunt. But to myself the meat or the antlers mean way less to me then the way I conduct the hunt it self.
If it was just about the meat I would be a farmer
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12-19-2020, 12:22 PM
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Some people say that once you cut skin, your tag should be done for. Some say your tag should hang on something that goes in the freezer and until then, it is all fair game.
I feel that the ethics vs legality is a matter not easily put to rest. One thing is clear since the early Greek philosophers: you cannot legislate virtue. And - maybe - that is a good thing.
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12-19-2020, 05:32 PM
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When we hunted in South Africa, by law, a game warden accompanied us. If you wounded an animal, the game warden determined whether or not the hit was 'survivable', - if he thinks it'll survive, you can continue hunting on that license for another animal. If he thinks the animal will not survive the wound, then your license is deemed 'filled' and your hunt (for that species) is finished.
Interestingly, if the game warden decides that's it a 'survivable' hit, very little effort is expended to track down the wounded animal, and the hunt quickly resumes for another animal. If the game warden believes that the hit animal won't survive the wound, then there's considerable effort employed to track it down and dispatch it.
The license isn't really to have an animal in your possession, like here in Alberta, there it's a license to remove one animal from the population. Whether you end up with it or the jackals and vultures!
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12-19-2020, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by thumper
When we hunted in South Africa, by law, a game warden accompanied us. If you wounded an animal, the game warden determined whether or not the hit was 'survivable', - if he thinks it'll survive, you can continue hunting on that license for another animal. If he thinks the animal will not survive the wound, then your license is deemed 'filled' and your hunt (for that species) is finished.
Interestingly, if the game warden decides that's it a 'survivable' hit, very little effort is expended to track down the wounded animal, and the hunt quickly resumes for another animal. If the game warden believes that the hit animal won't survive the wound, then there's considerable effort employed to track it down and dispatch it.
The license isn't really to have an animal in your possession, like here in Alberta, there it's a license to remove one animal from the population. Whether you end up with it or the jackals and vultures!
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Where in South Africa did you hunt? Private or public land?
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12-21-2020, 06:37 PM
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Got em back today.
Didn’t score very much but he looks sharp!
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12-21-2020, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Skoaltender
Got em back today.
Didn’t score very much but he looks sharp!
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Turned out real nice. Will look good in the man cave. Looks like about a 140 or so head, which is still pretty respectable and it is a nice symmetrical looking rack with good mass and spread.
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12-21-2020, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean2
Turned out real nice. Will look good in the man cave. Looks like about a 140 or so head, which is still pretty respectable and it is a nice symmetrical looking rack with good mass and spread.
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Yup pretty close, 142 1/8 gross.
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12-21-2020, 08:24 PM
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Buck you ended up with is bigger then the first. Unfortunate circumstance obviously but way it goes sometimes.
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12-21-2020, 09:35 PM
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Where in South Africa did you hunt? Private or public land?
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Some private land, mainly in a refuge - like one of our irrigation districts.
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12-22-2020, 11:31 AM
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Funny how many finger waggers are on this forum ... GOD complex much .... Even when people do everything right. THEY feel the need to criticize.
If only I could be so perfect and never make a mistake or a bad shot Well I guess I could if I just sat at home and bitched on the keyboard and never REALLY go hunting THAT would work.
P.S. congrates on the buck.
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