Coyote hunting on crown land

[obsessed1]

Anyone figured this out yet?
Seems like a resident needs a tag to hunt coyotes on crown land. Problem is a resident cannot purchase a tag as they are only for non res.
I called alberta realm and they confirmed I am not eligible to buy a coyote tag. But it seems like one is needed to hunt ??? Guess I may have to call f&w on Monday unless someone else has dealt with it already.

Note the wording from the regs
Coyote – A Resident, Non-resident or Non-resident Alien who holds a Non-resident/Non-resident Alien Wolf/Coyote licence may, except in WMUs 728 and 730, hunt (but not trap) coyote a) throughout the year on privately owned land and on public land in the White Area, to which he or she has the right of access to hunt; b) on public lands in the Green Area to which he or she has the right of access to hunt, from the opening day of a big game season in a particular WMU to May 31, 2021 or until June 15 if the hunting is in a WMU that has a spring season for black bear ending on that date. In Camp Wainwright (WMUs 728 and 730) a Resident may hunt coyote from January 5, 2021 until March 1, 2021. Baiting for Wolves and Coyotes – On public land, hunters cannot use bait for hunting wolves or coyotes except a) from Dec. 1 to Mar. 31, or b) during an open season for the hunting of black bear where the setting out, use and possession of bait for the purpose of hunting black bear is permitted. Each wolf or coyote bait site must have a readily observable sign showing the owner’s name, WiN, Big Game Outfitter Permit Number, or Big Game Guide’s Designation Number. These baiting restrictions do not apply to WMUs 102-166, to persons hunting under authority of a trapping licence, or on any private land. Red Fox – A Resident may, without a licence and at all times of the year, hunt (but not trap) red fox on any privately owned land to which he or she has the right of access. Red Squirrel and Badger – A Resident may, without a licence and at all times of the year, hunt or trap red squirrel and badger on any privately owned land to which he or she has the right of access. Bobcat – A resident may, without a licence from November 1 - February 28, 2021, hunt (but not trap) bobcat in WMUs 102, 104, 106, 108, 112, 116, 118, 119 and in the portion of WMU 110 that lies east of highway 2 and south of highway 3. The use of dogs is prohibited. All kills must be registered at a Fish and Wildlife office (see page 13). Other Animals – Porcupine, rabbit, hare, raccoon and woodchuck may be hunted, but not trapped**, without a licence throughout the province, at all times of the year. Skunk may be hunted and trapped. *

[MyAlberta]

Originally Posted by obsessed1

Anyone figured this out yet?
Seems like a resident needs a tag to hunt coyotes on crown land. Problem is a resident cannot purchase a tag as they are only for non res.
I called alberta realm and they confirmed I am not eligible to buy a coyote tag. But it seems like one is needed to hunt ??? Guess I may have to call f&w on Monday unless someone else has dealt with it already.

Note the wording from the regs
Coyote – A Resident, Non-resident or Non-resident Alien who holds a Non-resident/Non-resident Alien Wolf/Coyote licence may, except in WMUs 728 and 730, hunt (but not trap) coyote a) throughout the year on privately owned land and on public land in the White Area, to which he or she has the right of access to hunt; b) on public lands in the Green Area to which he or she has the right of access to hunt, from the opening day of a big game season in a particular WMU to May 31, 2021 or until June 15 if the hunting is in a WMU that has a spring season for black bear ending on that date. In Camp Wainwright (WMUs 728 and 730) a Resident may hunt coyote from January 5, 2021 until March 1, 2021. Baiting for Wolves and Coyotes – On public land, hunters cannot use bait for hunting wolves or coyotes except a) from Dec. 1 to Mar. 31, or b) during an open season for the hunting of black bear where the setting out, use and possession of bait for the purpose of hunting black bear is permitted. Each wolf or coyote bait site must have a readily observable sign showing the owner’s name, WiN, Big Game Outfitter Permit Number, or Big Game Guide’s Designation Number. These baiting restrictions do not apply to WMUs 102-166, to persons hunting under authority of a trapping licence, or on any private land. Red Fox – A Resident may, without a licence and at all times of the year, hunt (but not trap) red fox on any privately owned land to which he or she has the right of access. Red Squirrel and Badger – A Resident may, without a licence and at all times of the year, hunt or trap red squirrel and badger on any privately owned land to which he or she has the right of access. Bobcat – A resident may, without a licence from November 1 - February 28, 2021, hunt (but not trap) bobcat in WMUs 102, 104, 106, 108, 112, 116, 118, 119 and in the portion of WMU 110 that lies east of highway 2 and south of highway 3. The use of dogs is prohibited. All kills must be registered at a Fish and Wildlife office (see page 13). Other Animals – Porcupine, rabbit, hare, raccoon and woodchuck may be hunted, but not trapped**, without a licence throughout the province, at all times of the year. Skunk may be hunted and trapped. *

A resident, or a license holding non resident, may....
What license were you asking to acquire?

[DiabeticKripple]

Residents don’t need tags.

[Salavee]

Originally Posted by obsessed1

Anyone figured this out yet?
Seems like a resident needs a tag to hunt coyotes on crown land. Problem is a resident cannot purchase a tag as they are only for non res.
I called alberta realm and they confirmed I am not eligible to buy a coyote tag. But it seems like one is needed to hunt ??? Guess I may have to call f&w on Monday unless someone else has dealt with it already.

Note the wording from the regs
Coyote – A Resident, Non-resident or Non-resident Alien who holds a Non-resident/Non-resident Alien Wolf/Coyote licence may, except in WMUs 728 and 730, hunt (but not trap) coyote a) throughout the year on privately owned land and on public land in the White Area, to which he or she has the right of access to hunt; b) on public lands in the Green Area to which he or she has the right of access to hunt, from the opening day of a big game season in a particular WMU to May 31, 2021 or until June 15 if the hunting is in a WMU that has a spring season for black bear ending on that date. In Camp Wainwright (WMUs 728 and 730) a Resident may hunt coyote from January 5, 2021 until March 1, 2021. Baiting for Wolves and Coyotes – On public land, hunters cannot use bait for hunting wolves or coyotes except a) from Dec. 1 to Mar. 31, or b) during an open season for the hunting of black bear where the setting out, use and possession of bait for the purpose of hunting black bear is permitted. Each wolf or coyote bait site must have a readily observable sign showing the owner’s name, WiN, Big Game Outfitter Permit Number, or Big Game Guide’s Designation Number. These baiting restrictions do not apply to WMUs 102-166, to persons hunting under authority of a trapping licence, or on any private land. Red Fox – A Resident may, without a licence and at all times of the year, hunt (but not trap) red fox on any privately owned land to which he or she has the right of access. Red Squirrel and Badger – A Resident may, without a licence and at all times of the year, hunt or trap red squirrel and badger on any privately owned land to which he or she has the right of access. Bobcat – A resident may, without a licence from November 1 - February 28, 2021, hunt (but not trap) bobcat in WMUs 102, 104, 106, 108, 112, 116, 118, 119 and in the portion of WMU 110 that lies east of highway 2 and south of highway 3. The use of dogs is prohibited. All kills must be registered at a Fish and Wildlife office (see page 13). Other Animals – Porcupine, rabbit, hare, raccoon and woodchuck may be hunted, but not trapped**, without a licence throughout the province, at all times of the year. Skunk may be hunted and trapped. *

I think you read it wrong. A resident may hunt, but not trap, on Privately owned land throughout the year in the White area (with permission to access) except WMU728,WMU730) AND in the Green Areas (to which he has permission to access and hunt) from the opening of Big game season in that particular WMU to May 31st following or June 15 if that WMU has a spring Black Bear season.

Only non res require a license.

[fishnguy]

You do not need a tag. Read it as follows, as far as crown land is concerned:

A Resident may, except in WMUs 728 and 730, hunt (but not trap) coyote throughout the year on public land in the White Area and in the Green Area to which he or she has the right of access to hunt, from the opening day of a big game season in a particular WMU to May 31, 2021 or until June 15 if the hunting is in a WMU that has a spring season for black bear ending on that date.

[obsessed1]

This year the regs state " A Resident, Non-resident or Non-resident Alien who holds..." it says a resident needs to hold a non res tag in order to hunt.
It was not worded this way last year.
I noticed it even on the ihunter app it claims season is closed for crown land coyote hunting..

Its wording this year has me a bit unsure. I'm positive in previous years it stated a resident who had purchased or held a big game tag was eligable to hunt coyotes without a licence....
It might just be poorly worded but I read that that all three need the licence..

[obsessed1]

Originally Posted by DiabeticKripple

Residents don’t need tags.

I know we never used to but the wording now has me second guessing.

[obsessed1]

I'm by no means new to coyote hunting. I just wanted to be certain something hadn't changed this year. Would suck to drag a pair of dogs back to the truck and get busted for hunting without a licence....

[fishnguy]

You are reading into it too much and confusing yourself. It happened to me many times before. And the more you read, the more you start doubting yourself, lol.

It can be written like this:
A Resident and Non-resident or Non-resident Alien who holds a Non-resident/Non-resident Alien Wolf/Coyote licence may...

The license only applies to non-residents and non-resident aliens who do need a license to hunt dogs in Alberta.

[obsessed1]

Originally Posted by fishnguy

You are reading into it too much and confusing yourself. It happened to me many times before. And the more you read, the more you start doubting yourself, lol.

It can be written like this:
A Resident and Non-resident or Non-resident Alien who holds a Non-resident/Non-resident Alien Wolf/Coyote licence may...

The license only applies to non-residents and non-resident aliens who do need a license to hunt dogs in Alberta.

Good news I haven't been poaching so far this season
I was doing a bit if scouting on I hunter when I noticed they list the season closed. This lead me to confirm with the regs. One thing let to another. Even alberta realm thought I should need to purchase a licence but could not sell me one as I am a resident. Go figure ....

[TrapperMike]

Maybe this will help you to understand.
You can hunt coyotes on crown land if you are
(1) a resident
(2) a non-resident or
(3) a non-resident with a license to hunt coyotes
The only one who needs a license is #3.

[obsessed1]

Originally Posted by TrapperMike

Maybe this will help you to understand.
You can hunt coyotes on crown land if you are
(1) a resident
(2) a non-resident or
(3) a non-resident with a license to hunt coyotes
The only one who needs a license is #3.

Yup makes sense thanks

[FCLightning]

Originally Posted by fishnguy

You are reading into it too much and confusing yourself. It happened to me many times before. And the more you read, the more you start doubting yourself, lol.

It can be written like this:
A Resident and Non-resident or Non-resident Alien who holds a Non-resident/Non-resident Alien Wolf/Coyote licence may...

The license only applies to non-residents and non-resident aliens who do need a license to hunt dogs in Alberta.

Yup, punctuation is key.

[fishnguy]

Originally Posted by TrapperMike

Maybe this will help you to understand.
You can hunt coyotes on crown land if you are
(1) a resident
(2) a non-resident or
(3) a non-resident with a license to hunt coyotes
The only one who needs a license is #3.

Canadian non-residents need a host and a license to hunt coyotes in Alberta, no? There is definitely one for sale for $12.40 for 2020.

Non-residents who hunt with a Hunter Host may obtain White-tailed Deer, Antlered Mule Deer, Antlered Moose, Antlered Elk, Black Bear, Supplemental Black Bear, Cougar, and Wolf/Coyote Licences (see table below) from private licence issuers or online at albertarelm.com.

[MyAlberta]

Originally Posted by TrapperMike

Maybe this will help you to understand.
You can hunt coyotes on crown land if you are
(1) a resident
(2) a non-resident or
(3) a non-resident with a license to hunt coyotes
The only one who needs a license is #3.

You can hunt coyotes on crown land if you are
(1) a resident
(2) a non-resident with a license to hunt coyotes
(3) a non-resident alien with a license to hunt coyotes
The only one who doesn't needs a license is #1.

[58thecat]

Hmmmm read it...makes sense to me but I got grace three two times in a row so yup had to figure out the words, letters, ohhh and math too....ended up,graduating with honours...go figure eh

[Dean2]

Coyote – A Resident, Non-resident or Non-resident Alien who holds a Non-resident/Non-resident Alien Wolf/Coyote licence may,



You aren't reading the whole sentence, it clearly specifies which licenses you have to hold for which parties, it says nothing about a resident license. A resident cannot buy a non-resident or non-resident alien license.



As far as the comments further down that a non-resident can hunt coyote without a license, this is completely incorrect.


Hope this helps, you are good to go.

[KGB]

What is this “White area and Green area”?

[Big Sky]

I remember reading the coyote regulation for the first time after the wording was changed in 2017. I found the wording to be needlessly awkward.
The previous version had separate paragraphs dealing with residents and the two types of not residents. It was written in a similar way to the wolf regulations. I thought it was fairly straight forward.

When they changed the wording in 2017, I think that they were trying to clarify some things regarding the Green Zone. For some reason, they created that first sentence which has only created confusion. They should have stuck with the two paragraph format.

I give them an 'F' on the rewrite, due to a lack of clarity.

A couple of other notes from that page of the the regs.

With regard to residents, I always found it odd that wolf, porcupine, skunk, badger, etc have the phrase "without licence" but the coyote regs make no mention of a licence. I always felt that the coyote paragraph/sentence should say "without licence" if only to be consistent and to improve clarity.

I also find it odd that they have included sections that outline the licence requirements for badger, skunk, raccoon, rabbit etc but make no mention of the various species of ground squirrel (gophers ) which I think are much more commonly hunted.

For reference here's the relevant sections from the 2016 and 2017 regs.

2016



2017

[fishnguy]

Originally Posted by KGB

What is this “White area and Green area”?

Since 1948, Alberta has been divided into two main areas, the Green Area (58%) and White Area (42%). The White Area (settled portion) consists of the populated central, southern and Peace River areas of the province. The Green Area (forested portion) includes most of northern Alberta as well as the mountain and foothills areas along the province’s western boundary.

In the Green Area, public lands are managed for timber production, watershed, fish and wildlife, recreation, energy development, and other uses. Agricultural use is limited to grazing where it is compatible with other uses.

The majority (75%) of the White Area land is privately owned with the remaining being public land. Public lands in the White Area are managed for various uses including agriculture, recreation, soil and water conservation, and fish and wildlife habitat. Some parts of the province have large tracts of public land while other parts have very few scattered parcels. Forested public land in the White Area may also be managed for timber on a sustainable basis.

The Green and White Areas exclude federal lands, such as Indian Reserves, National Parks and Department of National Defence holdings. Figure 1 is a map of the Green Area and White Area.

From here: https://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/formain15744/$FILE/2015-General-Boundary-Information.pdf

And here is a map:



And this is from the guide: