Anyone hear about this? - Global shipping companies stopping ammunition transport -

[oddball_ted]

Hi All, I was speaking to a military surplus store owner in Calgary (that sells ammo) yesterday and he was telling me that many global shipping companies (most apparently based out of Europe) have or will soon cease to ship ammunition.

Has anyone else heard about this?

Apparently if they are based out of a country that has signed the UN Arms Treaty hoax (that was pushed on us and refuted by our conservatives last year) they are urged, required, told to stop shipping ammunition abroad for civilian use.

Sorry to stick this comment in the main threads but I thought it would work Ok in the main discussion since it's not discussing nitty-gritty questions or issues with specific ammo.

[Ryry4]

Read up.

[Ryry4]

Try this.

[connexion123]

That about sums it up. So where are the naysayers saying UN agenda 21 doesn't exist? And that they aren't ACTIVELY trying to disarm us?

See the part about hunting firearms?

Coming to a Canada near you.

[connexion123]

Oh, and...


MOLON LABE

[fish gunner]

Originally Posted by connexion123

Oh, and...


MOLON LABE

You know the spartans considered weapons not powerd by muscle power as the weapon of cowardice . So quoting lionidas over guns is a little ironic .lolol enemy archers were beheaded and left to rot as to prevent them crossing the river .

[kidd]

Originally Posted by Ryry4

Try this.

I dont believe that the document posted is legit. It looks like it has been modified. Check out #6. Why does it start with "Finally" when its not the final point? Why is there a typo in #6 too?

Just sayin.

kidd

[catchandeat]

Originally Posted by Ryry4

Try this.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-media-says-c/

apparently it's fake...

[mischief]

http://www.examiner.com/article/purp...on-provability


Link explaining the page is fake.

[Ryry4]

Originally Posted by kidd

I dont believe that the document posted is legit. It looks like it has been modified. Check out #6. Why does it start with "Finally" when its not the final point? Why is there a typo in #6 too?

Just sayin.

kidd

Any English majors on here wanna proof read.

Two articles saying it's fake because the UN said it was. Okay.

Believe whatever you want, just don't say you were warned.

[Ryry4]

Originally Posted by fish gunner

You know the spartans considered weapons not powerd by muscle power as the weapon of cowardice . So quoting lionidas over guns is a little ironic .lolol enemy archers were beheaded and left to rot as to prevent them crossing the river .

Didn't take long for the gun haters to show up.

[fish gunner]

Originally Posted by Ryry4

Didn't take long for the gun haters to show up.

No not gun hater sorry wrong line up . Reader of history is all. Lionodes woyld of hated guns fyi . Thats why quoting him over a statment made against those that used long-range weapons is so danged ironic . When I cnt buy a box of .270 12ga or .22 ill be first in line to stand up
Till then try to quote accurately. If you please check out the hunt camp thread no gun hater here.

[fish gunner]

Originally Posted by Ryry4

Any English majors on here wanna proof read.

Two articles saying it's fake because the UN said it was. Okay.

Believe whatever you want, just don't say you were warned.

Have you ever seen an actual UN Document .. this of course would be a good starting point to verify the authenticity of a UN letter head.
Come on, the office of disarmament affairs.lets google that shall we .Lolololol ..wanna buy an O.
Just a little tid bit for ya get a black berry and scan the icon . Presto fakeo .
Look out the clouds are real low today they could be falling.
Some actual info or as some call it the truth, from one point of view. http://www.un.org/disarmament/convarms/SALW/

[mischief]

Originally Posted by Ryry4

Any English majors on here wanna proof read.

Two articles saying it's fake because the UN said it was. Okay.

Believe whatever you want, just don't say you were warned.

I am paranoid enough to think that the universe/god is out to get me and yet I am 100 % sure this document is a fake.

As for the original purpose of this thread to discuss the European Global shipping companies that may or may not stop shipping ammo. My opinion is it would be a great time to start a shipping company if that is true because the manufactures are still going to make it and they will pay, so someone will step up and deliver it because money makes the world go round. That being said I buy mostly use U.S. ammo so unless they tighten their restrictions more I am not to worried.

[Dewey Cox]

Originally Posted by fish gunner

No not gun hater sorry wrong line up . Reader of history is all. Lionodes woyld of hated guns fyi . Thats why quoting him over a statment made against those that used long-range weapons is so danged ironic . When I cnt buy a box of .270 12ga or .22 ill be first in line to stand up
Till then try to quote accurately. If you please check out the hunt camp thread no gun hater here.

You are being kind of a wet blanket, though. Am I to take from this that you'll only give a crap about this situation when it directly affects you? A surprising stance, especially from one so proud of his public service in the military.

[fish gunner]

Originally Posted by Dewey Cox

You are being kind of a wet blanket, though. Am I to take from this that you'll only give a crap about this situation when it directly affects you? A surprising stance, especially from one so proud of his public service in the military.

Not at all. If 12ga.270 .22 are scarce it will affect far more than I. Being amongst the most popular of ammo choices .
The laughable quote of lionides on behalf of fire arms ...well sorry history isnt a sales slogan to the unread. Imo

[connexion123]

Originally Posted by fish gunner

You know the spartans considered weapons not powerd by muscle power as the weapon of cowardice . So quoting lionidas over guns is a little ironic .lolol enemy archers were beheaded and left to rot as to prevent them crossing the river .

So it wouldn't bother you if the UN said turn in all of your guns and bows and you'll live? You'd just hand them over?

[fish gunner]

Originally Posted by connexion123

So it wouldn't bother you if the UN said turn in all of your guns and bows and you'll live? You'd just hand them over?

Read the link posted , please ...as personal firearm are the furthest thing from the UN directives...
I will make no comment on civil disobedience I may or may not engage in if confronted with fanciful threats made by others on behalf of the UN . Read lots of varied sources then come up with a theory dont let others dictate what you know.

[oddball_ted]

From: http://www.un.org/disarmament/ATT/


"The treaty will foster peace and security by putting a stop to destabilizing arms flows to conflict regions. It will prevent human rights abusers and violators of the law of war from being supplied with arms. And it will help keep warlords, pirates, and gangs from acquiring these deadly tools."

"In anticipation, the United Nations, in close cooperation with a growing number of States, has launched a trust facility to kick-start advocacy, universalisation and implementation of the ATT."

Oddball: that word UNIVERSALISATION in the second paragraph makes my skin crawl a bit. It doesn't say in here anywhere about shipping restrictions but it doesn't seem unreasonable to me to think that they would put pressure on these shipping companies to no longer transport ammunition from former soviet bloc countries. Might dig into the paperwork more.

[Matt L.]

"Foster peace and security" Like anything the UN has done has achieved that.

[midgetwaiter]

Originally Posted by oddball_ted

Oddball: that word UNIVERSALISATION in the second paragraph makes my skin crawl a bit.

It means that everybody starts using the same form.

Unbunch your panties.

[oddball_ted]

Thank you for your legal knowledge