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Old 03-11-2023, 01:11 PM
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A recent arcticle by Marco Navarro-Génie of the Haultain Research Institute published online.

‘Special Rapporteur’ Plan Amounts to Yet More Smoke and Mirrors

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If you had never heard of a special rapporteur before last week, you might be forgiven. There has never been such a position in Canadian government departments, federal or provincial. There are plenty of special rapporteurs at the United Nations, however, but even there it’s an obscure title.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has announced his intention to name a “special rapporteur” to look into Beijing’s repeated interference with Canadian federal elections. The mandate for the proposed rapporteur will likely not include investigating the prime minister for dragging his feet on the file.

Special rapporteur is a title typically given to independent human rights activists, which the U.N. considers to be “experts” in either specific fields of human rights or in given geographic areas. For example, there are special rapporteurs for various human rights themes (like the independence of judges and lawyers) and there are special rapporteurs for Latin American or African states. Their work is to document, “report,” and denounce rights violations.

Since the mid-1980s, the U.N. Human Rights Council appoints special rapporteurs, but they are not U.N. or government employees. They are civilians, and they do not get paid.

Anyone who knows the U.N. will tell you that the organization has a terrible record protecting human rights. Rapporteurs report as they are supposed to do, often at great personal risk, but their work is inconsequential to human rights violators.

Reported rights violators never admit to their violations, nor change their ways. And the worse their rights transgressions, the less these violators care about reports that so few read.

So, Justin Trudeau wanting a “special rapporteur” working for him makes manipulative sense for several reasons. First, nothing contemplates such a position in the traditions of this country so he will fashion it however he sees fit.

Two, there are no special rapporteurs for intelligence services anywhere. In fact, U.N. special rapporteurs are at odds with intelligence services, military, or armed groups who usually obliterate rights in the name of national security, often invoking fake emergencies.

Lastly, but most importantly, there are no special rapporteurs appointed by governments. In their case, “independent” does not only mean that rapporteurs do not work for or are at arms-length from government. Rapporteurs are independent because the perpetrators of human rights violations do not get to choose them; they are never appointed by governments. Not surprisingly Cuba, for instance, refuses rapporteurs documenting rights violations on its soil.

It is not that there is a flaw in Trudeau’s proposal. His choice is a deliberate obfuscation. In keeping with natural justice, one ought not choose a special individual—much less create a new position outside of the existing investigating officers in law enforcement—to investigate one’s misdeeds. It is illegitimate for the Liberal government to choose the person who will investigate its potential links to the misdeeds.

It’s not difficult to see why Justin Trudeau is creating something untethered in Canadian law or tradition. He likely knows well that there are libraries of reports at the United Nations, written by special rapporteurs denouncing gruesome human rights violations. Yet, the perpetrators of such crimes remain in place, untouched in power, often sitting in U.N. committees in review of their own crimes. Venezuela, Nicaragua, Iran, and Cuba, for example, often rotate into the U.N. Human Rights Council even though their regimes are among the most blatant violators of human and democratic rights against anyone who opposes their corrupt rule.

U.N. special rapporteurs report, and the U.N. does next to nothing when it is not in the nature of the violators to change or to be moved by accusations.

The proposed creation of a government-appointed rapporteur in Canada is absurd. Canadians should demand a public inquiry instead and ditch the nonsense idea of a special rapporteur for election law violations at the hands of domestic MPs in possible collusion with hostile foreign states.

The country’s institutions have all the tools to investigate the issues. There’s no need to make up new ones.
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Old 03-11-2023, 01:14 PM
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It’s a made up title given to a person who used to head up your families foundation to “investigate “ you about money given to that foundation and other types of interference.
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Old 03-11-2023, 01:18 PM
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A Liberal "Yes" Man / Woman / Peoplekind. Someone who already knows the outcome of the investigation, "nothing to see here folks, move along".
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Old 03-11-2023, 03:59 PM
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Let’s just call it as it is. Things got too hot for turdy boy, he needed to appear like he was doing something to cool the waters which isn’t good enough. There needs to be a PUBLIC investigation. Pronto.

Here’s how this plays out (if he gets his way). It’ll take a year to find a lieberal stooge to figure out if a public investigation is needed. They’ll say it takes further time to investigate, and there will be an election. By this time sockboy is hoping that the public has moved on. Meanwhile, the mystery whistleblower is prosecuted/punished to the fullest extent and made an example of.

PP needs to keep the heat on.
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Old 03-11-2023, 04:06 PM
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Angry UN dictators will be impressed with this trick

What else was he supposed to do?
With his pet Lucki stepping down, he can't be certain the RCMP can be trusted to carry on a fair investigation.
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Old 03-11-2023, 04:24 PM
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Perfect time to set up an actual ethics committee to keep EVERYONE in line. Preferably from another country that simply reads the data and calls it as it is. It's pretty black and white this time. Just need an independent investigator to confirm or deny. Then do the right thing and apologize for the damage and step down. Enough of this garbage already. If it means getting thrown in jail like you or me would then so be it. These politicians putting themselves in a class above their electorate is wrong. This poor country is gonna get third world soon.
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Old 03-11-2023, 05:14 PM
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With his pet Lucki stepping down, he can't be certain the RCMP can be trusted to carry on a fair investigation.
K, that's funny!!
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What else was he supposed to do?
With his pet Lucki stepping down, he can't be certain the RCMP can be trusted to carry on a fair investigation.
He needs to appoint another stooge to make certain that he and his party are not investigated.
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Old 03-12-2023, 11:07 AM
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A Liberal "Yes" Man / Woman / Peoplekind. Someone who already knows the outcome of the investigation, "nothing to see here folks, move along".
Another layer of teflon.....
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Rapporteur:
In the POS's world, it's french for very good lier!!
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