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11-16-2024, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cowmanbob
If it’s a matter of trying to locate a deceased deer leave the gun at home. Taking the dog for a walk is still legal.
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Well if the CO watches from a distance as they often due, bino's, spotting scope are their number one tools of the trade....you locate the deer with the dog then what? Tag it and start the field dressing process and the CO walks up...now the decision how to write this up is on him, warning, fines, suspensions....even if you walk on by and come back later still might have a few questions to answer...don't get me wrong I think a dog on a leash should be totally acceptable and at no time is this tracking dog allowed off the leash but we aint there so I wouldn't even push the limit of the law regarding dogs to track big game and if so be prepared to accept full responsibility if caught.
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11-16-2024, 11:18 AM
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11-16-2024, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 58thecat
Agree, what are other provinces doing to allow this to safely be done then implement it in ours.
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The people that I know that use blood trailing dogs for wounded game keep their dogs leashed.
I'm not sure how the legalities work in all jurisdictions.
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11-16-2024, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 58thecat
Well if the CO watches from a distance as they often due, bino's, spotting scope are their number one tools of the trade....you locate the deer with the dog then what? Tag it and start the field dressing process and the CO walks up...now the decision how to write this up is on him, warning, fines, suspensions....even if you walk on by and come back later still might have a few questions to answer...don't get me wrong I think a dog on a leash should be totally acceptable and at no time is this tracking dog allowed off the leash but we aint there so I wouldn't even push the limit of the law regarding dogs to track big game and if so be prepared to accept full responsibility if caught.
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I guess the hunter in question could also go and shoot another deer.
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11-16-2024, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Pathfinder76
Yea, ok.
You can walk into Walmart today with one of those. Guess which one.
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So you agree with all of the firearms regulations? Would you agree that many of our laws are based on politics, not on on actual logic?.
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11-16-2024, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 3blade
It’s very different, in fact it’s right there in my post
A dog has a mind and teeth of its own, it does what it wants in the moment.
A gun sits perfectly inert until a human uses it.
If you can’t see the difference, you shouldn’t own either.
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People have a mind of their own, but people can use firearms and other weapons to do far more damage than any dog. Some people can see how illogical our laws are, yet some let personal fears and paranoia keep them from being objective.
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11-16-2024, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
So you agree with all of the firearms regulations? Would you agree that many of our laws are based on politics, not on on actual logic?.
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I agree that you are taking this into left field.
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11-16-2024, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Pathfinder76
I agree that you are taking this into left field.
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You had no problems trying use handguns to justify your opinion. And it's you and one other poster using your personal phobias, as justification for our no dogs for tracking big game legislation.
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Last edited by elkhunter11; 11-16-2024 at 11:43 AM.
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11-16-2024, 11:42 AM
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So as I suspected, none of the attacks were the result of dogs being used to hunt. It's obvious that you have deep psychological issues pertaining to dogs, but your paranoia, is no basis to restrict the use of dogs to track wounded big game. It's no different than the anti firearms activists wanting all hunters disarmed, because criminals have used firearms to harm people.
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I brought up firearms first? Unbelievable.
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11-16-2024, 11:42 AM
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You had no problems trying use handguns to justify your opinion.
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Nice edit.
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11-16-2024, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by cowmanbob
I guess the hunter in question could also go and shoot another deer.
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Therein lies the rub. Which is a better result?
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11-16-2024, 11:46 AM
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Nice edit.
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I mentioned legislation, you took it to handguns, and tried to use that argument to justify your opinion. You didn't mention left field, until well after you used handguns in your argument.
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11-16-2024, 11:52 AM
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Therein lies the rub. Which is a better result?
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Even avoiding the wasted animal factor, for the people using their anti dog safety phobias as justification, having that hunter in the field shooting at other animals, exposes the public to possible injury from the additional gunshots. And before people dismiss that, which is more likely, a hunter being accidentally shot, or a leashed tracking dog attacking some innocent person? I hear about more people being shot, than being wounded/killed by runaway hunting dogs.
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11-16-2024, 11:53 AM
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With how hunting is defined in the wildlife act even “taking the dog for a walk” without a firearm could still be considered hunting and thus illegal. That being said I would support a change in legislation to allow for tracking dogs provided they are kept leashed. With the relatively recent changes to allow pack dogs in certain wmu’s there may even be a chance of it happening if the right people get behind it.
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11-16-2024, 12:27 PM
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I don’t get it. Hunters wanting to limit the opportunities of other hunters, and disallow something that would recover wounded game, and on a leash no less. Sad state of affairs. And no, neither of my dogs are trained to blood track or will they ever be.
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11-16-2024, 12:45 PM
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What an entertaining thread.
No it isn’t.
We as hunters are doomed, because we refuse to look beyond our preset notions and biases.
Carry on, you’re doing marvellous.
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11-16-2024, 12:56 PM
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I'd rather handgun carry be legal than tracking with dogs. Way more benefits to carrying than tracking with hounds. Hunting or not.
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